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Post  quick 52 August 26th 2014, 8:45 am

What is the best stroke to use in a stroker motor for the street cruising and track use a few times a year mainly cruising... Will be planning to do Drag week with it want 600 to 650 hp

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Post  schmitty August 26th 2014, 8:50 am

It's really easy to get to 600hp with a stock stroke deal, but a 4.3" deal would make it a bruiser
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Post  Dark Horse of Apocalypse August 26th 2014, 1:21 pm

quick 52 wrote:What is the best stroke to use in a stroker motor for the street cruising and track use a few times a year mainly cruising... Will be planning to do Drag week with it want 600 to 650 hp

Some guys building 545-557 CIDs with a 4.5 inch stroke crank.
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Post  quick 52 August 26th 2014, 1:31 pm

schmitty wrote:It's really easy to get to 600hp with a stock stroke deal, but a 4.3" deal would make it a bruiser
not sure how easy 600hp is to get need some good heads and more compression than what I want and 600hp 460 is stout

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Post  cool40 August 26th 2014, 1:55 pm

I'd stay with 4.3 or less for street use.JMO
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Post  quick 52 August 26th 2014, 10:50 pm

Some parts I have A429 heads, Victor, 950 hp, Canton oil pan... Want to run a solid flat tappet cam around 10.5 to 11.1 compression

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Post  gmsmkr August 26th 2014, 11:14 pm

You can get that 600hp with the heads you have, back cut the valves with some clean up and still be pump gas ready with the stock stroke combo just give a little more rpm and your golden all this with a solid flat tappet cam. The 950 will feed it, with the compression you want it should be easy.
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Post  DanE August 27th 2014, 12:37 am

quick 52 wrote:What is the best stroke to use in a stroker motor for the street cruising and track use a few times a year mainly cruising... Will be planning to do Drag week with it want 600 to 650 hp

I think a factory 460 cast crank offset ground to 4.15", with a Scat 7.1" rod and a 1.125" compression height piston makes a sweet balance between rod/stroke ratio, torque production, internal engine friction, and rev capability. Also, less cubic inches to feed in cruise conditions than the bigger cubic inch engines.

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Post  bbf-falcon August 27th 2014, 10:57 pm

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quick 52 wrote:What is the best stroke to use in a stroker motor for the street cruising and track use a few times a year mainly cruising... Will be planning to do Drag week with it want 600 to 650 hp      

I think a factory 460 cast crank offset ground to 4.15", with a Scat 7.1" rod and a 1.125" compression height piston makes a sweet balance between rod/stroke ratio, torque production, internal engine friction, and rev capability. Also, less cubic inches to feed in cruise conditions than the bigger cubic inch engines.

Yep,thats a great combo.Like Cool40 said,keep it 4.3 or below for street.

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Post  Michael M August 28th 2014, 3:29 pm

Hey Dale.

Remember my '57? Don't know about "the best" but It had a 521 and dynoed at 650ish Hp.
Combo was a Scat 9000 4.3 crank, Scat 6.8 rods, Diamond "stocking" dish piston and A429 CJ heads, Victor manifold with a Holley 1000HP.
Don't recall the cam specs but it was a Comp roller. C.R was 10.3-1 and ran on pump gas.
One note, I tried a Holley 1050 and picked up 41 hp.

Is this for your '52? I thought you were running a stroker?

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Post  butterbean August 28th 2014, 6:48 pm

A few years back Horsepower TV built a .030 460 with all stock bottem end with cast dish pistons, a Hyd. roller, trick flow street heads, trick flow intake and 1000 holley HP carb and it made like 607 hp on pump gas
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Post  quick 52 August 31st 2014, 5:59 pm

[quote="Michael M"]Hey Dale.

Remember my '57? Don't know about "the best" but It had a 521 and dynoed at 650ish Hp.
Combo was a Scat 9000 4.3 crank, Scat 6.8 rods, Diamond "stocking" dish piston and A429 CJ heads, Victor manifold with a Holley 1000HP.
Don't recall the cam specs but it was a Comp roller. C.R was 10.3-1 and ran on pump gas.
One note, I tried a Holley 1050 and picked up 41 hp.

Is this for your '52? I thought you were running a stroker?

M.[/quote Hi Michael are u making the trip down for Drag week? The 52 is a stock stroke deal it runs very strong but is not 600hp it made 475hp ... would like to have the other 125hp

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Post  Michael M September 1st 2014, 7:28 pm

Yes, heading out Wed morning for Tulsa. Small block, this year. Unable to get the the SCJ done in time.

That 'ole tug of yours goes pretty good.

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Post  quick 52 September 2nd 2014, 9:38 am

butterbean wrote:A few years back Horsepower TV built a .030 460 with all stock bottem end with cast dish pistons, a Hyd. roller, trick flow street heads, trick flow intake and 1000 holley HP carb and it made like 607 hp on pump gas
I have ran a lot of the 600hp cars but when I use the hp calculator they are down a lot... I believe that a lot of dyno give high numbers... the real hp dyno is the track and a mph calculator...

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Post  quick 52 September 2nd 2014, 9:47 am

Michael M wrote:Yes, heading out Wed morning for Tulsa. Small block, this year. Unable to get the the SCJ done in time.

That 'ole tug of yours goes pretty good.

M.
Michael have a great time this year will u be in a class or DD... I wont be making the trip this year taking a year off hope to run in 15... Hoping to step it up a little thinking about a stroker FORD in a Chevy that should P*ss off a few

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Post  Dark Horse of Apocalypse September 2nd 2014, 10:27 am

Would love to see that. HATE how Chebby guys fill entitled to drop a SBC in anything.


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Post  quick 52 September 2nd 2014, 6:20 pm

Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:Would love to see that. HATE how Chebby guys fill entitled to drop a SBC in anything.


I can tell you at Drag week there were a lot of BBC shocked when a 460 put a a$$ kicking to them they couldn't believe it...

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Post  Dark Horse of Apocalypse September 2nd 2014, 7:49 pm

quick 52 wrote:
Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:Would love to see that. HATE how Chebby guys fill entitled to drop a SBC in anything.


I can tell you at Drag week there were a lot of BBC shocked when a 460 put a a$$ kicking to them they couldn't believe it...

Sounds like good fun watching that.
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Post  DanH September 4th 2014, 3:28 am

Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:
quick 52 wrote:
Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:Would love to see that. HATE how Chebby guys fill entitled to drop a SBC in anything.


I can tell you at Drag week there were a lot of BBC shocked when a 460 put a a$$ kicking to them they couldn't believe it...

Sounds like good fun watching that.
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Stop watching and start doing.
I read some of your prior threads, this is not a put down.
you want to learn? Start with a stock engine installed plus bolt on parts such as ignition system, performance/race oil pan for the car and headers(CJ''s) .
those parts can transfer to any stroker size and MOST heads. Hands on doing something is better than dreaming and talking.
YES those bolt on parts might not add to the engine output , they're are a start to a better bad ass build

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Post  quick 52 September 4th 2014, 9:25 am

DanH wrote:
Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:
quick 52 wrote:
Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:Would love to see that. HATE how Chebby guys fill entitled to drop a SBC in anything.


I can tell you at Drag week there were a lot of BBC shocked when a 460 put a a$$ kicking to them they couldn't believe it...

Sounds like good fun watching that.
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Stop watching and start doing.
I read some of your prior threads, this is not a put down.
you want to learn?  Start with a stock engine installed plus bolt on parts such as ignition system, performance/race oil pan for the car and headers(CJ''s) .
those parts can transfer to any stroker size and MOST heads.  Hands on doing something is better than dreaming and talking.
YES those bolt on parts might not add to the engine output , they're are a start to a better bad ass build
I do have a 472 had it 17 year's it's in my 1952 ford F1 truck does have a few performance upgrades... A429 heads,victor, 950hp, solid flat cam, 4000 stall 3.89.... Not the fastest truck around but fast enough to win quickest street rod 3 year's at Drag Week has run a best of 11.33 N/A and 10.54 with 125 hit... Also have made some long hauls with it longest being 1500 miles each way... I did all of my own work to the truck building my own engine, trans, diff, sub frame, paint and interior... just thinking of stepping up to a stroker

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