Re: 4 digit pump gas power ??

windsor March 31st 2018, 10:46 am

Shock towers blow. You should just M2 the front end and make the rest look as stock as possible.

Let’s get back to the intricacies of making big, streetable power on pump gas!

jbozzelle March 31st 2018, 10:57 am

bruno wrote:

Damn shock towers !!

Especially if you're looking to put some A heads on it with a 2-1/4" primary...

57ford custom March 31st 2018, 12:13 pm

I hate to blow your expectations about value but these models are not worth very much. Even the 69 "torino cobra" which came with a 428 only, seems to be not very valuable. Yet if it was a mustang with the same engine that is worth a whole lot more. I watch the value of the cobra version on ebay all the time and people selling them seem to be in the 20 to 25 category and like i said this is the numbers matching restored cobra. And a lot of them go unsold. What I am getting at is that car you have the picture of is worth at the most about 10 thousand as is and maybe not even that much. So with a must II front and the much more user friendly engine compartment with a big block 385 it will be worth maybe a little more but with 1000 hp it will have a fun factor that may scare you every time you hammer it. And realize that unless you have some very good rubber in the rear you will NOT be able to floor the throttle on a city street without excessive and I might add dangerous wheel spin at any time. My 63 fairlane with a 545 was low 10 second car on the strip and almost an animal on the street and that was with only 700 dyno hp. Very Happy

BOSS 429 March 31st 2018, 1:06 pm

how quick was the shelby?

rmk57 March 31st 2018, 1:29 pm

Mark Miller wrote:
rmk57 wrote:The good news is with the correct backspace you can squeeze on a 275 /60/ 15 tire without cutting anything. Have your GT wheels widened and adjusted for B/S and it would look pretty good.

IIRC aren't those chrome GT wheels 14"?

Yes your correct. What the hell was I thinking. Oh well, a 15x8 steel wheel with poverty caps would be another choice.

bruno March 31st 2018, 1:43 pm

BOSS 429 wrote:how quick was the shelby?

only a 6.39 @114 on a good prepped track, but that car had 866 RWHP. Interior at the track was just a kirkey race seat. , and a Manuel that i sucked at shifting

Colt Macara March 31st 2018, 2:13 pm

manofmerc wrote:Those shock towers can be cut back .If it is done right you cant really see it .Cutting the towers back makes plug changes easier as well as header installation The headers from Crites will fit without cut back towers BUT it is much easier to install all those pipes after a slice and dice .I have been doing so with both my 66-67 comet one with a 460 and the other a 427 .Cool cars but somewhat difficult to work on at times .Doug

Unless Crites doesn't show them on his website, he does not have headers for your build (Bruno). The biggest primary I saw on his site is 2" and nothing for a A460 or raised port head. I just researched headers and talked to D&D and Maddog to fit my TFS 521 in the 64 Fairlane even with the towers gone and the best I can tell they just aren't out there for a high output motor. I'm going to build my own headers and even then you will have to modify flanges to correctly fit the port. If you do a 598 you almost certainly will need the Chevy flange. There just isn't enough space between the port bolts for an 2 1/4 primary for the 460 bolt pattern.......Anything with towers left in place pinches the primary bend coming out of the flange. A real exhaust restrictor. That is why 'Dyno' headers do so much better than ones in the car.

bruno March 31st 2018, 3:13 pm

57ford custom wrote:I hate to blow your expectations about value but these models are not worth very much. Even the 69 "torino cobra" which came with a 428 only, seems to be not very valuable. Yet if it was a mustang with the same engine that is worth a whole lot more. I watch the value of the cobra version on ebay all the time and people selling them seem to be in the 20 to 25 category and like i said this is the numbers matching restored cobra. And a lot of them go unsold. What I am getting at is that car you have the picture of is worth at the most about 10 thousand as is and maybe not even that much. So with a must II front and the much more user friendly engine compartment with a big block 385 it will be worth maybe a little more but with 1000 hp it will have a fun factor that may scare you every time you hammer it. And realize that unless you have some very good rubber in the rear you will NOT be able to floor the throttle on a city street without excessive and I might add dangerous wheel spin at any time. My 63 fairlane with a 545 was low 10 second car on the strip and almost an animal on the street and that was with only 700 dyno hp.

Thank you for the input, you guys have way more knowledge on these cars and i really appreciate the input

TravisRice March 31st 2018, 6:32 pm

Basically if you want to be different do it. I like the idea myself and guys have made some big cars fast by thinking outside the box. Not everything will be a bolt on, but it is what it is. People will walk past a dozen camaros and mustang to come look at that Fairlane.

Travis

TravisRice March 31st 2018, 9:31 pm

found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

wayney March 31st 2018, 11:36 pm

that's a nice one, not a sportsroof but nice 2 door.

TravisRice wrote:found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

Mark Miller April 1st 2018, 12:23 am

TravisRice wrote:found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

That's one clean looking Torino,funny back in the mid 80's you could buy a clean Torino GT or Torino Cobra for cheaper than this 6 cylinder car!!! Smile

Nick FWIW the engine compartment in this year Torino is more spacious then the 68-69 Torino!!!IIRC isn't the 70-71 Torino engine compartment pretty close to the 71-73 Mustang engine compartment?

BBFTorino April 1st 2018, 2:25 am

Mark Miller wrote:
TravisRice wrote:found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

That's one clean looking Torino,funny back in the mid 80's you could buy a clean Torino GT or Torino Cobra for cheaper than this 6 cylinder car!!! Nick FWIW the engine compartment in this year Torino is more spacious then the 68-69 Torino!!!IIRC isn't the 70-71 Torino engine compartment pretty close to the 71-73 Mustang engine compartment?

No, they are the same width wise. But firewall to core support is a little longer on the 70/71 cars.

torino501 April 1st 2018, 9:36 am

bruno wrote:
D. Sea wrote:Nick,

Love the car, I had a 69 R code Ranchero that I wish i hadn't sold...

That said, I was younger and dumber and absolutely HATED working on the car because of those damn shock towers. Decided to build a car that was easier to work on and have had the same car ever since. Started building it in '94

Who was it that had the Green 65-66 Galaxie? Would love to have that car!!!!

So you guys are really making me second guess this decision about these cars because of the shock towers !!

that why I went to a 69/70 galaxie XL... LOTS OF ROOM.

57ford custom April 1st 2018, 10:30 am

The 71 Torino in the link is a beautiful car but wouldn't be much fun to drive. Way to slow maybe a small turbo on the 250 six in it or even better an ecoboost 3.5 with some slight mods as they seem to make over 400 hp easy. And still sound like a six popper. I have a 2.7 ecoboost in my 4x4 pickup and it is really peppy JMHO for a heavy picup and it is very economical also. Very Happy

TravisRice April 1st 2018, 12:23 pm

I have no idea where the pm button went for nick. I really like the 68-69 your looking at. But if by chance your interested in the one I linked above, I'm about 1hr-1-1/2 From that car and would go look at it for you if it would be something your Intested in. I also found this one with a quick search.

https://harrisburg.craigslist.org/cto/d/1970-ford-fairlane-500/6499436747.html

wayney April 1st 2018, 1:55 pm

yeah mark, I paid 3500 for mine in 96 . rust free GT 100% factory with the exception of the wheels.

wayne

Mark Miller wrote:
TravisRice wrote:found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

That's one clean looking Torino,funny back in the mid 80's you could buy a clean Torino GT or Torino Cobra for cheaper than this 6 cylinder car!!! Nick FWIW the engine compartment in this year Torino is more spacious then the 68-69 Torino!!!IIRC isn't the 70-71 Torino engine compartment pretty close to the 71-73 Mustang engine compartment?

Lem Evans April 1st 2018, 2:37 pm

https://owensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/1968-galaxie-500/6545741911.html

Mike R April 1st 2018, 10:25 pm

Lem Evans wrote:https://owensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/1968-galaxie-500/6545741911.html

Love that body it looks like a good starting point and it's the right color too

Mark Miller April 2nd 2018, 12:19 am

wayney wrote:yeah mark, I paid 3500 for mine in 96 . rust free GT 100% factory with the exception of the wheels.

wayne

Right,crazy how much prices have went up from the mid 80's to mid 90's!!!

Mark Miller wrote:
TravisRice wrote:found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

That's one clean looking Torino,funny back in the mid 80's you could buy a clean Torino GT or Torino Cobra for cheaper than this 6 cylinder car!!! Nick FWIW the engine compartment in this year Torino is more spacious then the 68-69 Torino!!!IIRC isn't the 70-71 Torino engine compartment pretty close to the 71-73 Mustang engine compartment?

Mark Miller April 2nd 2018, 12:21 am

TravisRice wrote:I have no idea where the pm button went for nick. I really like the 68-69 your looking at. But if by chance your interested in the one I linked above, I'm about 1hr-1-1/2 From that car and would go look at it for you if it would be something your Intested in. I also found this one with a quick search.

https://harrisburg.craigslist.org/cto/d/1970-ford-fairlane-500/6499436747.html

Nice Fairlane!!!! Smile

dfree383 April 2nd 2018, 6:00 am

TravisRice wrote:found tbis............

might interest someone, looks like a real decent transplant car.

https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-ford-torino/6543971782.html

Now that would be fun to molest!

bruno April 2nd 2018, 9:45 am

Thank you guys for all the links.

nickbay April 5th 2018, 10:41 am

They make those wheels in 15X8 size, may be others.

https://www.cokertire.com/gt-style-rallye-wheel-8619.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkpfWBRDZARIsAAfeXaoJGJfqHioefeyPv4q_haPFhXHDVvpf-7YAosTC0SAAcq7V6RoHMQ4aApTKEALw_wcB

STR-LGL-70 April 5th 2018, 12:43 pm

Nick,
One of my kids found either a 68 or 69 torino fastback the other day w/o engine for I think 600.00, let me know if you are interested & I will ask them where it is
Sheldon

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