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Post  69F100 February 25th 2010, 11:38 pm

I got a guy asking me about a engine he bought it came out of a 63 ford station wagen the numbers he gave me off the heads are C3AE DIF RC21 he said the block was not marked with 352 on the front like other 390 are .Can any of you help with this thanks

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Post  chuck stevens February 26th 2010, 1:14 pm

Not sure but, it could be a 352. Only way to be sure is to measure bore or stroke.

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Post  bluef100fe February 26th 2010, 4:10 pm

I've never seen a block that didn't say either 352 or 105 or 501. Should say this on the front drivers side of block just below cylinder deck surface. Otherwise I'd guess somebody ground the numbers off. If the block has a 105 or 501 number where the 352 usually is then the block is a later block likely a service replacement depending on the history of the whole deal. The head casting number you posted is a desirable one. As chuck said the only real way to tell what the short block is to measure bore and stroke. Hope this helps
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Post  69F100 February 26th 2010, 10:12 pm

Thanks guys he came by this after noon said he had someone to look at it and all the numbers on the block,intake ,heads. manifolds,and the automatic tranmission and told him it was a 390 and it was the later 63 model because it had the alternator bolt hole in the head but the hole engine and trans is matching for 63.

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Post  the Coug February 26th 2010, 10:38 pm

I would like to know what is so special about those heads ???? when I get them they go to the scrapper....


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Post  56Tbird February 26th 2010, 11:45 pm

the Coug wrote:I would like to know what is so special about those heads ???? when I get them they go to the scrapper....


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Did you trade the "Scrap Dealer " a set of them for your "Racecar" Rolling Eyes king
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Post  the Coug February 27th 2010, 12:00 am

56Tbird wrote:
the Coug wrote:I would like to know what is so special about those heads ???? when I get them they go to the scrapper....


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Did you trade the "Scrap Dealer " a set of them for your "Racecar" Rolling Eyes king


no I left that for you..... ? on 63 model 390 heads Icon_queen you can paint a turd but it's still a colored Turd...


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Post  blown473 February 28th 2010, 12:00 pm

My Ford manual shows the C3AE cyl. head casting as being used on the 406 and 427 early engines. It was cast in 7 variations from C3AE-6090-C (406), and 427 was C3AE-6090-D,G,H,J,K Depending on the exact casting they changed the valve size, chamber, port size. But these are listed as a performance head not a standard head, so you have a desireable casting, especially if you were doing a #'s match restoration project.
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Post  56Tbird February 28th 2010, 12:15 pm

Sweet!! and some people been taking hi-po heads to the scrapper affraid I'll bet they feel real smart cheers king
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Post  69F100 February 28th 2010, 2:37 pm

Thanks blown473 I will pass this on to him the engine was frooze up from sitting he has been putting trans fluid and brake fluid in it trying to loosen it up he has where it will move alittle now he going to pull the heads and sand the cyclinders so he can get it apart to check the crank to see what the crank is.
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Post  blown473 February 28th 2010, 3:01 pm

I have the crank casting #'s in my book also, you can send me a pm with what you find and I'll be happy to check it out for you. Good luck! Greg Very Happy
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Post  69F100 February 28th 2010, 3:47 pm

I am sure he will want me to find out what crank he has for him so I will be getting back to you on that and thanks for the help.

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