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Post  cdbearde August 20th 2009, 4:39 am

Is any company making Forged 460 cranks? If not, has anyone ever took one of the forged 429 cranks and made a 3.850 stroke, or is that even a possibility?

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Post  dfree383 August 20th 2009, 6:15 am

Its possible to make a 429 steel crank into one, if you go to a BBC 2.2 journal size.
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Post  deerhunter3814 August 20th 2009, 9:46 am

Are these cranks hard to find and what is the largest stroke that can be ground out of them? 4.125 or 4.150?
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Post  dfree383 August 20th 2009, 10:09 am

They are not real common, but not impossible to find either. With a chevy journal you can probably get around 3.9-4.0 stroke out of one. If your looking for a 4.15 is probably cheaper and easier to just get a SCAT or similar off shore one.
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Post  IDT-572 August 20th 2009, 10:59 am

You don't hear of many stock 3.850 cranks breaking........ They tough Cool
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Post  cbsuperduty August 20th 2009, 11:10 am

Yes it can be done and is done a lot in truck pull setups and small CID race engines. You need to find a 429 out of a F600-700 truck. The snout will also have to be redone.
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Post  DanH August 20th 2009, 11:15 am

can be done , got one thats done , the most stoke that can be done is 3.880 and lower to get a certain big bore short stroke for cube limit.

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Post  D. Sea August 20th 2009, 12:27 pm

IDT-572 wrote:You don't hear of many stock 3.850 cranks breaking........ They tough Cool

I agree Idea
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Post  deerhunter3814 August 20th 2009, 12:45 pm

I run a 4.5 bore, and I want to run a small, but larger stroke than a 3.850 but it needs to be an OEM crank. I will spin it pretty hard. I am going to change my career, no more mud. Very Happy

Blake,
Finally tried out the shift pattern that we discussed, it worked real good, it felt like it hooked up better, that's a lot better. Thanks for the heads up. cheers Took first place Saturday.
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Post  deerhunter3814 August 20th 2009, 12:52 pm

DanH wrote:can be done , got one thats done , the most stoke that can be done is 3.880 and lower to get a certain big bore short stroke for cube limit.


If a 3.880 is the largest stroke, then going past 3.850 would not be worth the cost of the custom pistons. IMO

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Post  IDT-572 August 20th 2009, 4:40 pm

deerhunter3814 wrote:I run a 4.5 bore, and I want to run a small, but larger stroke than a 3.850 but it needs to be an OEM crank. I will spin it pretty hard. I am going to change my career, no more mud. Very Happy

Blake,
Finally tried out the shift pattern that we discussed, it worked real good, it felt like it hooked up better, that's a lot better. Thanks for the heads up. cheers Took first place Saturday.

Glad it worked for you........... Cool Congrats on the win........... Very Happy
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Post  DanH August 20th 2009, 6:09 pm

deerhunter3814 wrote:
DanH wrote:can be done , got one thats done , the most stoke that can be done is 3.880 and lower to get a certain big bore short stroke for cube limit.


If a 3.880 is the largest stroke, then going past 3.850 would not be worth the cost of the custom pistons. IMO

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why would custom pistons be needed ? OTS pistons are easy to get. know Probe got them .

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Post  bbf-falcon August 20th 2009, 6:31 pm

dfree383 wrote:Its possible to make a 429 steel crank into one, if you go to a BBC 2.2 journal size.
Dave, What would C.I be w/that crank and 6.7 rod w/.030 overbore?

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Post  deerhunter3814 August 20th 2009, 9:11 pm

DanH wrote:
deerhunter3814 wrote:
DanH wrote:can be done , got one thats done , the most stoke that can be done is 3.880 and lower to get a certain big bore short stroke for cube limit.


If a 3.880 is the largest stroke, then going past 3.850 would not be worth the cost of the custom pistons. IMO

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why would custom pistons be needed ? OTS pistons are easy to get. know Probe got them .

I was just assuming that it would be a custom deal, if it is not then this might be an option for next year. Thanks for the info. Now to start looking for a crank. Smile
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Post  deerhunter3814 August 20th 2009, 9:14 pm

IDT-572 wrote:
deerhunter3814 wrote:I run a 4.5 bore, and I want to run a small, but larger stroke than a 3.850 but it needs to be an OEM crank. I will spin it pretty hard. I am going to change my career, no more mud. Very Happy

Blake,
Finally tried out the shift pattern that we discussed, it worked real good, it felt like it hooked up better, that's a lot better. Thanks for the heads up. cheers Took first place Saturday.

Glad it worked for you........... Cool Congrats on the win........... Very Happy

Thanks Blake, I have a new deal up my sleeve, I'll give you a heads up later.
With some questions probably. Very Happy
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Post  bbf-falcon August 20th 2009, 9:30 pm

I've got one,it's in a kit deal from Engine systems a few yrs. back. I don't know the exact stroke of the crank.(was suppose to be a 472 C.I) it has Crower 6.7 Billet rods and .030 Venolia Domes. If anyone needs it, let me know. I have new rings,M/R bearings and the crank is fresh

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Post  deerhunter3814 August 20th 2009, 9:50 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:I've got one,it's in a kit deal from Engine systems a few yrs. back. I don't know the exact stroke of the crank.(was suppose to be a 472 C.I) it has Crower 6.7 Billet rods and .030 Venolia Domes. If anyone needs it, let me know. I have new rings,M/R bearings and the crank is fresh


472, on what bore? We might figure it that way. Cool
I was hoping the 429 crank would go at least 4.0. Crying or Very sad

If you can figure out the stroke, please let me know.
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Post  bbf-falcon August 21st 2009, 12:04 am

bbf-falcon wrote:I've got one,it's in a kit deal from Engine systems a few yrs. back. I don't know the exact stroke of the crank.(was suppose to be a 472 C.I) it has Crower 6.7 Billet rods and .030 Venolia Domes. If anyone needs it, let me know. I have new rings,M/R bearings and the crank is fresh
.030 would be 4.390 bore

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Post  cdbearde August 21st 2009, 12:39 am

Great info. guys. Cool
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Post  deerhunter3814 August 21st 2009, 3:03 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:I've got one,it's in a kit deal from Engine systems a few yrs. back. I don't know the exact stroke of the crank.(was suppose to be a 472 C.I) it has Crower 6.7 Billet rods and .030 Venolia Domes. If anyone needs it, let me know. I have new rings,M/R bearings and the crank is fresh
.030 would be 4.390 bore


Sounds like a 3.9 stroke 3.9X4.39 comes in right at 472. Smile
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