Cam thrust plate options?

Are there any good alternatives to the stock deal? Seems I've chewed up a stock one when the cam bolt worked loose. Found a couple of roller bearing deals. Are they worth the money ? Thanks Brian

The bronze plate i.m.o. No machining required.....just bolts on.

Lem Evans wrote:The bronze plate i.m.o. No machining required.....just bolts on.

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Lem Evans wrote:The bronze plate i.m.o. No machining required.....just bolts on.

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if its a roller cam, use a thrust roller style plate,friction is reduced

Lem Evans wrote:

Ordered one today

BOSS 429 wrote:if its a roller cam, use a thrust roller style plate,friction is reduced

That's not were any real friction is in the engine. Not my opinion....fact.

just buy a Danny Bee and be done with it......

No more wear than I have seen on my deal over the years with the bronze thrust plate, I think I would swap having the chance of all those tiny rollers getting down into the oil pan and maybe causing problems for the plate.

Just my 20 years worth of bronze plate experience.

X6 Just run over to Lem's and pick one up, or call Shawn in the parts department (270)278-2376, and he can ship one to you. He has them in stock. I had one in Krisse's 533 unit and it did fine,,,, that was like 3 or 4 years ago and that engine is still in service.

Uncle Charlie

IDT-572 wrote:No more wear than I have seen on my deal over the years with the bronze thrust plate, I think I would swap having the chance of all those tiny rollers getting down into the oil pan and maybe causing problems for the plate.

Just my 20 years worth of bronze plate experience.

I have tore apart 2 different engines w/those roller bearings in the pan. So it's Bronze for me also.

just put in my order today.

Race Ready Fabrications wrote:Are there any good alternatives to the stock deal? Seems I've chewed up a stock one when the cam bolt worked loose. Found a couple of roller bearing deals. Are they worth the money ? Thanks Brian

D9TE 528 with bronze plate:





D0VE 533 with CampCams bronze plate for Torrington bearing cam gear:





The standard (non-Torrington applicable) bronze plate ought to suffice.

Paul

I have been running the factory thrust plate.
I have a Crane roller cam. I was under the impression that the oil pump loading "pulled" the cam rearward?
Would this mean any camshaft with an aftermarket steel timing set should use the bronze thrust plate?

Cheers

So with a Solid flat tappet is a stock plate ok? or is the bronze plate better ? I have used the Ford Racing roller plate with a roller cam .
I have a spare roller plate i was going to use in another motor with the Solid cam but thinking twice now that the bronze or stock plate would be better .

Any harm or benefit using the Ford Racing roller thrust plate with a solid flat tappet cam ??? Seems the Bronze plate is good all round

68galaxie wrote:I have been running the factory thrust plate.
I have a Crane roller cam. I was under the impression that the oil pump loading "pulled" the cam rearward?
Would this mean any camshaft with an aftermarket steel timing set should use the bronze thrust plate?

Cheers

Generally, the distributor gear is pulled downward and the camshaft is moved rearward. However, camshafts can sometimes move forward in some combinations due to other aspects of the design or setup of the engine, such as when there is no internal oil pump, etc.

Paul

68galaxie wrote:Would this mean any camshaft with an aftermarket steel timing set should use the bronze thrust plate?

Cheers

Gregaust wrote:So with a Solid flat tappet is a stock plate ok? or is the bronze plate better?
I have a spare roller pla.

In very general terms, the bronze plate is pretty much the no-brainer, one-size-fits-all option. But it's not a "must" in all cases.

Paul

The cam is pushed forward if you use offset lifters, this is a fact I learned the hard way. My c-headed 605 I used centered lifters for 2 seasons with a stock cam thrust plate with no wear at all to speak of. I had some trouble breaking snap rings on the intake rocker because of the side load. I thought I would try a set of offset lifters to try to straighten the push rod a bit to reduce side load. Ran the engine on the test stand for 5 min and pulled the plug and filter and the magnet on the plug had a mushroom of iron on it. After tear down I tried another stock thrust plate blaming myself for assembly error. Tried it again same thing happened, with only changing the lifters I studied it for awhile and noticed that the offset lifters are turned slightly in the bore under pressure, and tries to thread the cam forward. The reason I think I never heard of this before is because everyone I talked to about the issue never used a stock plate on a high end engine build , it was either a bronze plate or a roller style.

Yep, the off set cups in the lifter trys to rotate the lifter in the bore......loads the tie bar also.

anyone have the part number to the comp bronze plate. cant find it at comp or summit.

Lem sells them- http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151456

Lem Evans wrote:

BOSS 429 wrote:if its a roller cam, use a thrust roller style plate,friction is reduced

That's not were any real friction is in the engine. Not my opinion....fact.

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Ill stick to the roller bearing ones for roller cams, never a bearing in the pan,or a cam that failed of any kind ,but ive seen plenty of worn thrust plates