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Post  Doug Rahn on September 2nd 2011, 10:32 am

When the weather cools down some I going to start working on back-halving my car with a 4 link setup. I'm tired of playing with the stock suspension and putting money into it. Right now I'm in the planning stages on figuring out what the length of the new axle will be. What is the norm for back spacing on the rear wheels?

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Post  QtrWarrior on September 2nd 2011, 11:14 am

I got your wheels Grandpa ! Very Happy

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Post  Barney on September 2nd 2011, 11:20 am

Mine are 4 " in my 4 link car.

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Post  bosshoss on September 2nd 2011, 12:42 pm

Doug I believe the general consensus is that the shorter the axles the lower the rotating weight and total weight of the rearend as well. That being said I think the most common backspacing will be in the 3.5- 5.5 range. If you go with 3.5 and leave an extra couple of inches on each side to the frame rails then you have the option of going to a bigger wheel tire combo later by increasing the back spacing.

I think a lot of guys opt for the big Chevy bolt pattern as well. That way the wheels resale value may be higher.

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Post  jbozzelle on September 2nd 2011, 12:55 pm

How big of a wheel/tire?

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Post  Doug Rahn on September 2nd 2011, 2:41 pm

Thanks guys! I figured that most would go for the shorter axle for weight purposes and most of the wheels I've seen intended for this are in the 3-5" range on the backspacing.

John, I haven't made up my mind yet, but might be 15x33's. The wheels my Grandson Laughing is taking about are 15x14 with 5.25 backspacing.

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Post  Doug Rahn on September 2nd 2011, 2:51 pm

Here's what I've drawn up so far, just need to verify the tires will have enough clearance from the fender lip. I'll definitely be ordering gun drilled axles to cut down the weight.

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Post  richter69 on September 2nd 2011, 2:59 pm

take into consideration the driveline angles changing if you sit those tall tires up into the tubs to keep the rear ride height the same as it is now.

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Post  jbozzelle on September 2nd 2011, 3:10 pm

Keep the backspacing in the whole or halfs. Just easier to pick up a new set of wheels that way. Make sure you check for what Fabio mentions too. I have some 32x14.5 ET Drags on mine and the trans needed to be jacked up about 2.5" in the rear and the motor plate had to get dropped a bunch to get the driveline to line up... Consider removing the trans tunnel if necessary. When I bought my car the tunnel was gone and I hated it but now that the driveline is all lined up it is nice. I don't think the tunnel and powerglide would've not interfered with each other.

I'm about as low as I can go in the rear in regards to ride height. If I drop the rear anymore the tires will get up into the quarters right under the quarter windows. As a result I need to use shorter lower arms up front as well as a 2.25" offset front wheel to get the front tires to tuck in nicely. If not the rear trackwidth is narrower than the front and that looks like crap to me.

I'd also stretch the wheel openings before you do anything just so you can locate the tire/wheels in there better during mockup and assembly.

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Post  Doug Rahn on September 2nd 2011, 3:19 pm

10-4! I've been working on that drawing too, to work out the details. I usually don't do anything until I completely draw it out and confirm it will work.


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Post  the Coug on September 2nd 2011, 3:38 pm

Doug my rims are 15x15 and I have 7 1/2 offset. I believe in keeping it close to keep from putting undue stress on the axles and bearings...


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Post  Doug Rahn on September 2nd 2011, 3:53 pm

the Coug wrote:Doug my rims are 15x15 and I have 7 1/2 offset. I believe in keeping it close to keep from putting undue stress on the axles and bearings...


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I agree Randy. Not so much as the load on bearings and axles the way I think about it. But that is something to consider. I feel if the axle pad is a close the center of the wheel as possible, then there is lesser degree of possible oscillation when a rotating load is applied. I've seen slow motion video of cars where it appears that could be happening. I'm definitely no Engineer to say that happens for sure, but it sure seems feasible. I guess the Engineers at work all these years have been rubbing off on me, or maybe I just think about shit to much. Laughing Laughing Laughing .

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Post  jbozzelle on September 2nd 2011, 4:00 pm

Where in the world did you find a .dwg or.dxf of a Fox Mustang?

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Post  Doug Rahn on September 2nd 2011, 4:07 pm

I didn't find it, I drew it based on my car Wink . I get bored real easy when I have nothing to work on in the shop, so I draw! Drafting is the only subject I made straight A's in back in school Laughing Laughing Laughing . I wish we had computers back then Laughing Oh shit, I just told on myself Shocked .

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Post  QtrWarrior on September 2nd 2011, 5:12 pm

Doug Rahn wrote:I didn't find it, I drew it based on my car Wink . I get bored real easy when I have nothing to work on in the shop, so I draw! Drafting is the only subject I made straight A's in back in school Laughing Laughing Laughing . I wish we had computers back then Laughing Oh shit, I just told on myself Shocked .



That's because you're older then dirt !!! Shocked BUT, I'm liking the way the "revision" looks...

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