Re: p51 vs. tfs a460 340-m-83

richter69 October 5th 2011, 9:25 pm

Lem Evans wrote:I declare BULLSHIT.........A460...in any bore . Max to Max...seems the out of the box a460 stuff is being compared to mega $ P51 stuff

As I said "rockin" P 51 heads lol.

I have well more coin in these heads than a set of A heads would have cost............but I did reuse a lot of stuff that would not have worked with the A heads................

richter69 October 5th 2011, 9:28 pm

1970 ford maverick wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:I declare BULLSHIT.........A460...in any bore . Max to Max...seems the out of the box a460 stuff is being compared to mega $ P51 stuff
We could go another 30over,can we get these #s with flat tops ,solid roller and the 4.30s with the A,s?,.Thanks 1970 Maverick.

why flat tops? your gonna have to buy a piston anyway, put some compression in it!

Lem Evans October 5th 2011, 9:41 pm

"""I guess I'm a retard....my 1st A460 deal was 4.375" bore [+.015"] x 4.140"...SCJ block...2.350"/1.900" ...498".
Then I sold all my stuff so I could go to 4.50" x3.920"....and lost power.

richter69 October 5th 2011, 9:51 pm

I guess the A460 head is the only thing to get then all the others are junk dont waste your money..................and just so this comment is not interpreted the wrong I say it with a .... Smile

cool40 October 5th 2011, 9:52 pm

Lem Evans wrote:"""I guess I'm a retard....my 1st A460 deal was 4.375" bore [+.015"] x 4.140"...SCJ block...2.350"/1.900" ...498".
Then I sold all my stuff so I could go to 4.50" x3.920"....and lost power.

you poor thing! Sad

Lem Evans October 5th 2011, 9:55 pm

richter69 wrote:I guess the A460 head is the only thing to get then all the others are junk dont waste your money..................and just so this comment is not interpreted the wrong I say it with a ....

It's whatever you say........

All this pony crap about the bore size relative to which cyl. head that should be used is just opinion.

richter69 October 5th 2011, 9:58 pm

Mav, I hope your not planning on any alky either cuz the biotch wont run...................... Razz

Lem Evans October 5th 2011, 10:07 pm

richter69 wrote:I guess the A460 head is the only thing to get then all the others are junk dont waste your money..................and just so this comment is not interpreted the wrong I say it with a ....

1970 ford maverick October 5th 2011, 10:07 pm

the Coug wrote:if you are gonna put that much head on it BORE that Damn thing..... this aint no small block or Chevy

It,s a fresh bore,I do have a scj blk that,s 80 over and needs to be bored again cuz it,s got a bad cylinder.How much more can we go safely?,Thanks 1970 Maverick.

richter69 October 5th 2011, 10:09 pm

get the a460 heads

1970 ford maverick October 5th 2011, 11:10 pm

richter69 wrote:get the a460 heads

I think that is where were headed,found a new pair with valves,no retainers,springs,or keepers.Also comes with powtercoated intake and new header flanges for$2,000 cash.tfs-5441-b001-m-83 2.30 and 1.88s Now is that a deal or whay? Thanks 1970 MAV.

BOSS 429 October 5th 2011, 11:32 pm

i fig as much after reading your first post,seeing the gear ratio you were useing to get it to run, i would of bet money the cam was wrong, and as you can see im not the only one, then you find the converter,and gear will need to be changed,but it will be great when done, either head will run well. just match your parts-RICH

BOSS 429 October 5th 2011, 11:39 pm

1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.

PS WE GO 5.60S @ 2900 WITH AN IRON dove head in 2 of our cars,im sure you can go faster then that with just changing up your combo

1970 ford maverick October 5th 2011, 11:48 pm

1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.

Is my Mav that slow?

BOSS 429 October 5th 2011, 11:55 pm

heck no, its not slow at all, it will be a lot faster ,just need to sort out your combo, We put in a lot of thought to make our old stuff run,and sometimes over thought, weve done the iron head deal because the guys came to me and wanted to run a dove style head so thats what i built them.

1970 ford maverick October 5th 2011, 11:59 pm

1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.
Is my Mav that slow?

We have gone 5.64 @ 122mph with 82n and 87f which we know is fat and safe.Just being safe you know!Let us know what you think? Tkanks,1970 MavMan.

dfree383 October 6th 2011, 12:12 am

Lem Evans wrote:I declare BULLSHIT.........A460...in any bore . Max to Max...seems the out of the box a460 stuff is being compared to mega $ P51 stuff

X2

jbozzelle October 6th 2011, 12:18 am

1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.
Is my Mav that slow?
We have gone 5.64 @ 122mph with 82n and 87f which we know is fat and safe.Just being safe you know!Let us know what you think? Tkanks,1970 MavMan.

How much of a shot is that? I believe BOSS 429 is doing it on motor alone.

1970 ford maverick October 6th 2011, 12:24 am

1970 ford maverick wrote:
richter69 wrote:get the a460 heads
I think that is where were headed,found a new pair with valves,no retainers,springs,or keepers.Also comes with powtercoated intake and new header flanges for$2,000 cash.tfs-5441-b001-m-83 2.30 and 1.88s Now is that a deal or what? Thanks 1970 MAV.

WELL ,is this a deal or what?,They sure look Great!Thanks MAVMAN.

jbozzelle October 6th 2011, 12:25 am

Definitely a deal.

1970 ford maverick October 6th 2011, 12:26 am

jbozzelle wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.
Is my Mav that slow?
We have gone 5.64 @ 122mph with 82n and 87f which we know is fat and safe.Just being safe you know!Let us know what you think? Tkanks,1970 MavMan.

How much of a shot is that? I believe BOSS 429 is doing it on motor alone.

Im thinking 225?,it,s a BigShot plate.

1970 ford maverick October 6th 2011, 12:35 am

1970 ford maverick wrote:
jbozzelle wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.
Is my Mav that slow?
We have gone 5.64 @ 122mph with 82n and 87f which we know is fat and safe.Just being safe you know!Let us know what you think? Tkanks,1970 MavMan.

How much of a shot is that? I believe BOSS 429 is doing it on motor alone.
Im thinking 225?,it,s a BigShot plate.

Is that all motor?,

1970 ford maverick October 6th 2011, 1:11 am

1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
jbozzelle wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:
1970 ford maverick wrote:we have a 521 , stock blk,which head would be best with the 4.39 bore ?,we have performer rpm,s that we home ported, 460 victor,1050 dommy,flat tops,a glide,4.88s,33.10.5s Car with my dad@3160 ran 9.24 at 144.and 5.88 at 117mph. at Gainesville .Backed haved with ladder bars,BigShot plate with 73n73f ,27degrees total. We know we need a better head to go faster,Let us know what ya thank?Thanks ,1970 Ford Maverick.
Is my Mav that slow?
We have gone 5.64 @ 122mph with 82n and 87f which we know is fat and safe.Just being safe you know!Let us know what you think? Tkanks,1970 MavMan.

How much of a shot is that? I believe BOSS 429 is doing it on motor alone.
Im thinking 225?,it,s a BigShot plate.
Is that all motor?,

I need to know how big that motor is too?

jbozzelle October 6th 2011, 9:53 am

1970 ford maverick wrote:........................ We know we need a better head to go faster................

Not exactly. I think you have a lot left in that existing combo...

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