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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 24th 2011, 9:13 pm

Well I am finally getting to start my Iron Man project. I have a pre emission 460 with D3 heads and the low comprression. I am gonna massage the heads and the 4 hole square bore dual plane piece from the factory. I am going to see what this cheap combo is gonna do.
I am getting the heads worked to install roller rockers and guide plates. I had thought of doing a hydraluic cam but I think I am gonna stick in a good little solid flat tappet setup. Use one of my holley 750 carbs and run it with a stall I have and let her rip. Should be a decent powerful bracket toy till I am able to install my big toy. I even checked the rod and main bearings, they looked a little worn out so I am gonna replace them and should be good to go.

Funny thing is I might like this motor so much I might not wanna take it out. Very Happy

Paid $300 for motor and C6 trans. Ran good, no smoke or knocks. The trans has never been off of the motor. A old man had it in a car and only drove it every 5 or 6 months to run it around a little.

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Post  Curt on October 24th 2011, 9:32 pm

Project "Iron Man" underway. Cbox36giterdone
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Post  cool40 on October 25th 2011, 12:28 am

300$ motor is the best kind! go beat on it and have fun. Smile
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Post  dfree383 on October 25th 2011, 12:45 am

spend the few hundred dollars and find a set of early small chamber heads. Especialy if your going to put any money in the D3's.
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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 25th 2011, 6:25 am

I had a hard enough time trying to find a decent big block ford that someone would part with. This is kinda of a test for my skills and knowledge for me to see what my results are. All I have to do now is find out how much lift I can go on the cam without having any PTV clearence trouble. I will be posting up some pics and the build items as I go.
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Post  dfree383 on October 25th 2011, 6:33 am

Timing and duration has to due with P to V not the actual max lift.

You need to watch retainer to guide / seal clearance, typical .535 to .540 is about it.
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Post  138 on October 25th 2011, 3:30 pm

You trying to use the old pistons?

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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 25th 2011, 6:41 pm

138 wrote:You trying to use the old pistons?

Yea, the shortblock is in very good condition.
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Post  cool40 on October 25th 2011, 7:44 pm

find some d0ve heads! you'll thank me later. Smile
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Post  138 on October 25th 2011, 8:01 pm

With a swap from d3's to small chamber heads will it run on pump gas?...

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Post  cool40 on October 25th 2011, 8:10 pm

138 wrote:With a swap from d3's to small chamber heads will it run on pump gas?...
yep,and he should do the timing chain deal too if it aint been done yet.
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Post  138 on October 25th 2011, 8:15 pm

Yeap...and a plate too. Might as well make it fun.

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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 25th 2011, 8:56 pm

As soon as I get more of my plan together I will post up a list of specs and parts, might have it tomorrow. I will give better details about the motor as well. cheers
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Post  cool40 on October 25th 2011, 9:06 pm

138 wrote:Yeap...and a plate too. Might as well make it fun.
that may be overkill. Laughing but...........125 hit would'nt hurt.
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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 28th 2011, 10:45 pm

Ok here is what I have so far.....

I'm looking at some early style C8,C9,Dove heads doing my port work with the stock valves, Thanks Mr Hobbs.
Keeping the iron 4 barell dual plane manifold, with some port work.
Running a holley 750 carb.
New rod and main bearings in the shortblock
Building some 1 3/4 in shorty or mid length headders.
Lunati cams, a couple to choose from, here is the one I had in mind...

ADV. 276/286
@.050 247/256
106 LSA 100 ICL
LIFT .630/.637

I am guessing my compression should be around 9.5:1 but all in all I think this should be a fun modded stock style motor.
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Post  138 on October 28th 2011, 10:57 pm

I would get a cheap used aluminum duel plane....dont waste your time grinding on a stock iron one..

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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 28th 2011, 11:15 pm

138 wrote:I would get a cheap used aluminum duel plane....dont waste your time grinding on a stock iron one..

I know, this project is to see what I can do with the factory stuff. I am more or less gasket matching and smoothing out the ruff areas. I am spending the money for the A-headded beast so I rather be buying stuff for that.
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Post  dfree383 on October 28th 2011, 11:37 pm

Tennessee Bullitt wrote:Ok here is what I have so far.....

I'm looking at some early style C8,C9,Dove heads doing my port work with the stock valves, Thanks Mr Hobbs.
Keeping the iron 4 barell dual plane manifold, with some port work.
Running a holley 750 carb.
New rod and main bearings in the shortblock
Building some 1 3/4 in shorty or mid length headders.
Lunati cams, a couple to choose from, here is the one I had in mind...

ADV. 276/286
@.050 247/256
106 LSA 100 ICL
LIFT .630/.637

I am guessing my compression should be around 9.5:1 but all in all I think this should be a fun modded stock style motor.

Thats to much cam....... Get down in the 230's on the intake. I also assume your not expecting to run stock rockers with that kind of lift. Look at Lunati 61603.
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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on October 29th 2011, 7:09 am

That cam is a solid flat tappet That is the biggest one... here is the other one I was looking as well, it's smaller too.

ADV 277/284
@.050 243/251
LSA/ICL 110/104
LIFT .608/.611

OF course I am still keeping the idea of building my own cam. I love how I can browse this forum and read what people build and see results, and with all the information from a lot of people I can get good ideas on how to setup a motor. I built the last cam in my SCJ motor and I got almost a tenth faster and another 2mph with a nitrous built cam from the N/A cam.

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Post  dfree383 on October 29th 2011, 7:12 am

Still a little on the big side.......... for a 9.5:1, Factory intake motor.
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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on November 4th 2011, 6:58 am

Okay, aside of camshaft selection. I have the shortblock reassemblied with new rod and main bearings, A full gasket kit sitting in the truck. I also have a new hi-volume oil pump. I even went out to repaint the block the orginal color, old ford blue. I squirted some aluminum paint on the intake manifold. as well as the heads when I get them. The valve covers are orginal blue as well I need to post some pics so far. I have done everything in house. I have decided on the camshaft I am going to break down and build my camshaft for this thing, after all I want this to be a decent setup. Very Happy
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Post  res0rli9 on November 4th 2011, 8:36 am

Get the Lemster to get a cam Smile

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Post  machwon169 on November 4th 2011, 8:52 am

to big a cam for what your doing....

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Post  Wayne Pearce on November 6th 2011, 8:37 am

I think that 1 3/4" headers are "marginal" at best, and would definitely be a "bottle neck" to future power improvements. Your headers should be at least 1 7/8" / 2".

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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on November 7th 2011, 9:47 am

Wayne Pearce wrote:I think that 1 3/4" headers are "marginal" at best, and would definitely be a "bottle neck" to future power improvements. Your headers should be at least 1 7/8" / 2".

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So weather a big block is all stock or modded it still would require good size headders? Thanks for the tip because I wanna redo the exhaust on my F350 sometime in the next 100yrs. affraid
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