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Re: Q16

Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 8:30 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
bbf-falcon wrote:Will it corrode your Alum. carb parts or reg. in any way if left there for long periods of time?

No more than pump gas with oxygenate as part of it.

To explain a little about Randy's 'pump gas' statement :
In the late '70s MTBE was added to pump gas to help replace the knock resistance [octane] of lead which was ban from hwy. fuels. Due to the Clean Air Act of 1990 higher levels of MTBE were added to pump gas...at that point it was also being used as an octane enhancer and an oxygenate [to reduce tailpipe emissions]...as best as I can remember, some underground storage tank in SoCal had a bad azz leak and the city found traces of MTBE in their drinking water wells and that was the end of it for pump gas.

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Re: Q16

Post  schmitty on January 16th 2012, 8:40 pm

samiam wrote:13.75 comp. .. is that enough ?

Randy recommended VP113 in my engine at a little over 14:1 and it ran great with no signs of detonation. The Q16 might be a little more than is needed. If I remember correctly, Q16 is recommended at 14.5:1 and over. Your engine will run on it just fine, but you may or may not be actually losing power running too much octane.
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Re: Q16

Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 8:54 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:Will it corrode your Alum. carb parts or reg. in any way if left there for long periods of time?

Rick, Charlie's "Lawyer" engine, Bobby Small, Phillip's 638" deal, Jack Austin's 638", Etc. all use The "Q" . I have not seen or heard any reports of that being the case.
Relative to "long periods of time".....I suspect if the fuel bowls were left wet after a race in the heat of the summer.... 2 weeks later the bowls would be dry...it does evaporate in a hurry.

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Re: Q16

Post  bbf-falcon on January 16th 2012, 9:47 pm

The reason I ask this Question Lem,is Terry told me at the seminar that JBB said he had been spraying too much WD40 in his engine after a race. I thought it might be because he was running Q16.I have never tried any of it.

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Re: Q16

Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 9:57 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:The reason I ask this Question Lem,is Terry told me at the seminar that JBB said he had been spraying too much WD40 in his engine after a race. I thought it might be because he was running Q16.I have never tried any of it.

I have no idea. I didn't hear that conversation.

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Re: Q16

Post  cool40 on January 16th 2012, 10:03 pm

is this the yellow fuel? it does require a 4-6% increase in fuel.kind like goen from alky to m5.i ran some "Q"something that was yellow and slowed down as it was added to the car.i'm not too up on gas but it was yellow and very$$.it even turned my plugs yellow! Laughing it was NHRA legal,i do know that.
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Re: Q16

Post  richter69 on January 16th 2012, 10:25 pm

you would know it if you smelled it..........just like M5 lol.
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Post  cool40 on January 16th 2012, 10:30 pm

richter69 wrote:you would know it if you smelled it..........just like M5 lol.
it could'nt have been.lol. m5 is kinda like pot and pussy......has a smell all of its own! lol!
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Re: Q16

Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 10:36 pm

Seems Fabio and Cool 40 are on the "cat walk" .

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Re: Q16

Post  richter69 on January 16th 2012, 10:38 pm

get my gaskets shipped damnit ^^^^^^ Razz Wink
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Post  BOSS 429 on January 16th 2012, 10:39 pm

schmitty wrote:
samiam wrote:13.75 comp. .. is that enough ?

Randy recommended VP113 in my engine at a little over 14:1 and it ran great with no signs of detonation. The Q16 might be a little more than is needed. If I remember correctly, Q16 is recommended at 14.5:1 and over. Your engine will run on it just fine, but you may or may not be actually losing power running too much octane.



your 14to1 will make more power w/q16 over 113 yes.



A LITTLE MORE THEN NEEDED,< no , not at all
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Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 10:40 pm

richter69 wrote:get my gaskets shipped damnit ^^^^^^ Razz Wink

They are on the cat walk........ tongue

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Re: Q16

Post  richter69 on January 16th 2012, 10:41 pm

too sexy for my intake.............. cheers
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Post  cool40 on January 16th 2012, 10:41 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:get my gaskets shipped damnit ^^^^^^ Razz Wink

They are on the cat walk........ tongue
somehow i knew you'd mouth off. clown
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Re: Q16

Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 10:42 pm

cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:get my gaskets shipped damnit ^^^^^^ Razz Wink

They are on the cat walk........ tongue
somehow i knew you'd mouth off. clown

Do you mean.....type off Question

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Post  Lem Evans on January 16th 2012, 10:47 pm

I.m.o. the 113 is the bang-for-the-buck.....but....it'd depend on the comp ratio and the owners tuning skills. I've seen 113 work well at 14:1.

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Re: Q16

Post  cool40 on January 16th 2012, 10:47 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
cool40 wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:get my gaskets shipped damnit ^^^^^^ Razz Wink

They are on the cat walk........ tongue
somehow i knew you'd mouth off. clown

Do you mean.....type off Question
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Re: Q16

Post  rmcomprandy on January 17th 2012, 1:17 am

BOSS 429 wrote:
schmitty wrote:
samiam wrote:13.75 comp. .. is that enough ?

Randy recommended VP113 in my engine at a little over 14:1 and it ran great with no signs of detonation. The Q16 might be a little more than is needed. If I remember correctly, Q16 is recommended at 14.5:1 and over. Your engine will run on it just fine, but you may or may not be actually losing power running too much octane.


your 14to1 will make more power w/q16 over 113 yes.

A LITTLE MORE THEN NEEDED,< no , not at all

It WILL make a bit more power at 14/1 ... at TWICE the price. It is an issue a lot of people deal with, lol.
At 12.5 to 13 to 1 ... it won't.

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Post  whatbumper on January 17th 2012, 1:45 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:It WILL make a bit more power at 14/1 ... at TWICE the price. It is an issue a lot of people deal with, lol.
At 12.5 to 13 to 1 ... it won't.

at 9.5:1 and 30 lbs of boost it does too. LOL

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Post  Wheelie58 on January 17th 2012, 7:57 pm

My experience with Q16 leaves me with the memory of the odor of lacquer thinner in the exhaust.
When I learned of the Chuck Norris additive, I just had to call my buddy that works at the VP Fuel plant in Terre Haute IN. I wanted to find out how they got that much ball sweat.
Nick was not clear on the nut juice, but gave me a Drag Racer Hotline that any of us can call to get the lowdown on any VP product. 812-878-2025
Maybe it will be helpful.
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Post  yellowhorse7 on January 17th 2012, 11:57 pm

Wheelie58 wrote:My experience with Q16 leaves me with the memory of the odor of lacquer thinner in the exhaust.
When I learned of the Chuck Norris additive, I just had to call my buddy that works at the VP Fuel plant in Terre Haute IN. I wanted to find out how they got that much ball sweat.
Nick was not clear on the nut juice, but gave me a Drag Racer Hotline that any of us can call to get the lowdown on any VP product. 812-878-2025
Maybe it will be helpful.
Keith

I know that this is going to sound silly but it seems that VP doesn't know everything they should about their products. They will tell you until they are blue in the barrel that Q16 doesn't work real well on nitrous applications and will recommend C23 or NO2 over it. Funny thing is, given equally accurate tune ups, the Q16 always makes more power, in both real world apps as well as on the dyno. I'm not bashing VP but it seems strange that they would not provide real world data sets. I for one will continue to use it until something significantly better comes along
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Re: Q16

Post  papamoe on January 27th 2012, 8:39 pm

Q16 made 7 hp over c13 on my bbf combo. Made 18hp on my buddys sbc combo. You have to increase the jet size and decrease the high speed air bleeds.

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Post  samiam on January 27th 2012, 9:01 pm

papamoe wrote: Q16 made 7 hp over c13 on my bbf combo. Made 18hp on my buddys sbc combo. You have to increase the jet
size and decrease the high speed air bleeds.

Cant you acheive the same as decreaseing the airbleeds by adjusting the idle screws out, ? can you explaine, I could use all the good info I can get..

thanks, Sam...
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Post  BOSS 429 on January 27th 2012, 9:24 pm

samiam wrote:
papamoe wrote: Q16 made 7 hp over c13 on my bbf combo. Made 18hp on my buddys sbc combo. You have to increase the jet
size and decrease the high speed air bleeds.

Cant you acheive the same as decreaseing the airbleeds by adjusting the idle screws out, ? can you explaine, I could use all the good info I can get..

thanks, Sam...


no, you can tune with just jets,but its best to tune with air bleeds also
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Post  rmcomprandy on January 27th 2012, 11:54 pm

samiam wrote:
papamoe wrote: Q16 made 7 hp over c13 on my bbf combo. Made 18hp on my buddys sbc combo. You have to increase the jet
size and decrease the high speed air bleeds.

Cant you acheive the same as decreaseing the airbleeds by adjusting the idle screws out, ? can you explaine, I could use all the good info I can get..

thanks, Sam...

Changing the size of an air bleed also changes the shape of the fuel curve in that system of the carburetor which also will effect the other carburetor systems; not simply how rich or lean it is.

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