55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

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Post  bruno on Sat 28 Jan 2012 - 15:08

i was just curiuos cylinder head gurus , on my cylinder heads would the stepper valve angle help out the velocity on the hight lift ?

im really not worried about longevity on the valve job since i only race a handful times a year Very Happy

thxs for the input

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  c.evans on Sat 28 Jan 2012 - 18:16

bruno wrote:i was just curiuos cylinder head gurus , on my cylinder heads would the stepper valve angle help out the velocity on the hight lift ?

im really not worried about longevity on the valve job since i only race a handful times a year Very Happy

thxs for the input


Bruno,

A possibilty is that the 50* valve angle might work okay, but "no" on anything steeper. When doing steep valve angles, it's not just a matter of switching the valve job around, but the chamber shaper has to be compatible with the steeper angles. Meaning that that chamber shape of the Edelbrock heads is not the most conducive to a steep angle valve job. One would need to sink the valves some in order to help make it work.

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  bruno on Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 10:21

Thxs, ....do you do the same for intake and exhaust

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  BOSS 429 on Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 11:41

just using a different type of valve can help, sometimes the flowbench can be a little misleading, this is where the wetflow come into play, even if the air says no, the fuel can follow better into the chamber.


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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  bruno on Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 16:25

BOSS 429 wrote:just using a different type of valve can help, sometimes the flowbench can be a little misleading, this is where the wetflow come into play, even if the air says no, the fuel can follow better into the chamber.



Charlie put in some frpp a429 2.25 intake valves ...i believe ....is there any better ones for my application ?

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  Lem Evans on Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 17:06

You'd be hard pressed to find a better flowing s.s. intake valve than the A429. The "better" intake valve would be made of Ti.

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Post  605FOX on Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 18:37

Bruno , you do too much reading ....just increase the comp and get a real cam ....and let the damn thing eat study

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Post  QtrWarrior on Sun 29 Jan 2012 - 19:10

605FOX wrote:Bruno , you do too much reading ....just increase the comp and get a real cam ....and let the damn thing eat study


Amen !

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  bruno on Mon 30 Jan 2012 - 12:18

605FOX wrote:Bruno , you do too much reading ....just increase the comp and get a real cam ....and let the damn thing eat study


I was just being inqusitive .......

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Post  Tennessee Bullitt on Mon 30 Jan 2012 - 12:40

605FOX wrote:Bruno , you do too much reading ....just increase the comp and get a real cam ....and let the damn thing eat study



Funny I was told this at the seminar. Very Happy

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Post  jbozzelle on Mon 30 Jan 2012 - 13:48

Didn't Darin Morgan even mention that the "exotic" valve angles are only worth a few HP on the dyno? For most builds just use the typical angles and enjoy it...

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  Lem Evans on Mon 30 Jan 2012 - 19:21

Nick, While valve/valve job evolution , a bigger cam , etc. may give some gains , that is not the bang for the buck.

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  richter69 on Mon 30 Jan 2012 - 22:03

from what I gather you have not even slipped the tip of the fogger in yet...............loose the bars, get a 7531, put the man pills in and go have fun.................. Twisted Evil

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  rmcomprandy on Mon 30 Jan 2012 - 23:43

With a 50 degree valve job you can use more duration. If your cam is already to small then it certainly won't help.

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Re: 55* 50* vs 45* valve angles

Post  605FOX on Tue 31 Jan 2012 - 9:14

rmcomprandy wrote:With a 50 degree valve job you can use more duration. If your cam is already to small then it certainly won't help.


everybody keeps on saying his cam is too small ....... Bruno why did you go with such a small cam ?

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