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Post  dfree383 on March 31st 2012, 9:56 pm

What intakes clears a stock hood on a fox with 460 ?

What's needed to clear say a victor, rpm or stealth?

Lower engine? Offset rack bushings? Spacers on k member?
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Post  cletus66 on March 31st 2012, 10:08 pm

Torker II with no spacer and 1.5 in K frame spacers clears the stock hood. Till you floor it, and the air cleaner wingnut makes a dent in your new paint job. A chain fixes that. Motor plates would probably eliminate the whole problem. Embarassed









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Post  dfree383 on March 31st 2012, 11:46 pm

what mounts did you use?

What springs on the front? Did you lower the front suspension?
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Post  Darrin Gorham on April 1st 2012, 12:36 am

Dave , you have to work with your headers as far as lowering the k member. Most headers are built around the stock k member and cant be lowered.

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Post  dfree383 on April 1st 2012, 4:16 am

A little Data on a few Common Manifolds

Edelbrock Performer F 3.75 R 4.49 Avg 4.12

Edelbrock Performer RPM F 4.18 R 6.15 Avg 5.48

Edelbrock Torker 2 F 3.50 R 4.25 Avg 3.87

Edelbrock Victor F 6.30 R 6.30 Avg 6.30

Weiand Stealth F 5.25 R 6.75 Avg 6.00

Weiand Tunnel Ram F 9.93 R 10.31 Avg 10.12


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Post  cletus66 on April 1st 2012, 10:04 am

dfree383 wrote:what mounts did you use?

What springs on the front? Did you lower the front suspension?



D-D mounts and shorty headers. I also got a telescoping steering shaft from Maximum Motorsports, along with their caster/camber plates. The springs are what came on the car when I bought it. It has a stock K-frame and control arms, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are stock 4 banger springs. I didn't try to adjust the ride height. It is what it is..... Laughing
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Post  LivermoreDave on April 1st 2012, 10:20 am

Dave I know you ask of stock hood clearance and one thing comes to mind. Did the year model you question offer a hood scoop or raised hood of sorts? May be far more economical than the alternate route!

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Post  dfree383 on April 1st 2012, 10:22 am

No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.

I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.
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Post  rmcomprandy on April 1st 2012, 11:11 am

dfree383 wrote:No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.

I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.

Machining down the carb pad of a Victor on a forward angle and using a wide thin air cleaner, (like an oval sideways), will barely touch a stock H.O. hood with the k-member spaced down an additional inch. Use a solid motor mount on the left side.

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Post  dfree383 on April 2nd 2012, 2:54 am

wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?
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Post  dfree383 on April 2nd 2012, 2:55 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
dfree383 wrote:No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.

I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.

Machining down the carb pad of a Victor on a forward angle and using a wide thin air cleaner, (like an oval sideways), will barely touch a stock H.O. hood with the k-member spaced down an additional inch. Use a solid motor mount on the left side.

Randy how much needs to be machined?

Have you ever Converted a Torker 2 to a Dominator Carb? Is it worth doing?
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Post  cletus66 on April 2nd 2012, 8:27 am

dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?



http://bigblockfox.com/

I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.
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Post  zbob on April 2nd 2012, 8:57 am

left over head bolts work good for the spacers....bobn

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Post  rmcomprandy on April 2nd 2012, 10:09 am

dfree383 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
dfree383 wrote:No, the 86 models did not have a scoop like the earlier ones.

I'm thinking I may be able to fit a Victor with a 2.5" cowl, rack drop, and kmember spacers.

Machining down the carb pad of a Victor on a forward angle and using a wide thin air cleaner, (like an oval sideways), will barely touch a stock H.O. hood with the k-member spaced down an additional inch. Use a solid motor mount on the left side.

Randy how much needs to be machined?

Have you ever Converted a Torker 2 to a Dominator Carb? Is it worth doing?

I believe it is .400" on the front and .050" on the rear.

I have never converted a Torquer II to Dominator. pattern.

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Post  83-88T-Bird Guy on April 4th 2012, 7:33 am

cletus66 wrote:Torker II with no spacer and 1.5 in K frame spacers clears the stock hood. Till you floor it, and the air cleaner wingnut makes a dent in your new paint job. A chain fixes that. Motor plates would probably eliminate the whole problem. Embarassed


Yep....1 1/2 inch spacers.
That's exactly how I did it.
Torker II intake.
Also had offset rack bushings and custom made solid engine mounts.
Steering rack to Canton oil pan clearance turned out to be 1/16 inch.

I bought aluminum flat stock and made my own spacers and used long grade 8 bolts. (1/2 inch)
Moroso drop base 14 x 3 aircleaner.

Cleared the stock hood blanket on my ol' 91 Coupe.
The Procharger carb bonnet also cleared. cheers






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Post  rmcomprandy on April 4th 2012, 10:02 am

cletus66 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?



http://bigblockfox.com/

I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.

We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).

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Post  dfree383 on April 4th 2012, 10:09 am

rmcomprandy wrote:
cletus66 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?



http://bigblockfox.com/

I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.

We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).

for me its a time thing...... I just don't have time to waste fabricating alot of small stuff when its avaliable commercialy for a modest sum.

You also have to count the time involved when chasing down the materials and hardware..........

If its something that very costly vs the materials and time involded, I'll take a run at doing it myself.
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Post  cletus66 on April 4th 2012, 2:16 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:
cletus66 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?



http://bigblockfox.com/

I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.

We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).


I am incredibly lazy. Laughing
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Post  BigBlockRanger on April 4th 2012, 2:45 pm

1-1/2" K-member spacers, Victor, drop base air filter under a stock '83 hood & scoop.






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Post  rmcomprandy on April 4th 2012, 6:19 pm

dfree383 wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:
cletus66 wrote:
dfree383 wrote:wheres a good source for spacers & hardware for the K member?



http://bigblockfox.com/

I got these. Scroll down on the left. Fordified Racing K member spacers.

We've made 'em out of thick wall 1" square tubing; (I realize that in these days people just want to buy everything and actually MAKING something is beyond most people).

for me its a time thing...... I just don't have time to waste fabricating alot of small stuff when its avaliable commercialy for a modest sum.

You also have to count the time involved when chasing down the materials and hardware..........

If its something that very costly vs the materials and time involded, I'll take a run at doing it myself.

We already had the metal however, it did take us about 2 1/2 hours time to make 'em, Razz
Leftover head and main bolts from different engines are made good use of at one time or another so, we keep 'em all in boxes...

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Post  jbozzelle on April 5th 2012, 12:02 pm

BigBlockRanger wrote:1-1/2" K-member spacers, Victor, drop base air filter under a stock '83 hood & scoop.



How low are the headers to the ground? Which headers did you use?

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Post  rmcomprandy on April 5th 2012, 2:22 pm

jbozzelle wrote:
BigBlockRanger wrote:1-1/2" K-member spacers, Victor, drop base air filter under a stock '83 hood & scoop.



How low are the headers to the ground? Which headers did you use?

We used:
SHORTIES from Stan at Ford Powertrain Applications in Puyallup, WA. 1(253)848-9503
This was a fun higher power engine swap, everyday street car ... hence the stock H.O. hood.

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Post  jbozzelle on April 5th 2012, 5:00 pm

Thanks Randy

I'm looking to swap a BBF into my 78 Futura. It was always a street car and I see no reason to cut it to pieces with a backhalf, etc... It'll be minitubbed with ladder bars, stock style front end, etc.. I would like to keep the air cleaner tucked under the two or so inch tall forward facing Mustang scoops that car on the early 80's Mustangs...

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Post  BigBlockRanger on April 6th 2012, 12:05 am

Hookers. They are low, but more because I cut 1 full coil off the front springs than anything. The front of the car sits too low in my opinion. It looks good, but it is a major pain in the ass to get a jack under it. The headers drag a tiny bit pulling into my driveway, but I've had worse.
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