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Post  powerstrokeace on June 6th 2013, 10:58 am

guy's while my block is torn down i pondering which way to go. as i'm just wanting to build a back up "a" head short block for my stuff after what happened this month.
so i have a dove block .080 over with bronze bushing and roller cam bearing. shouls i install 4 bolt maind and have it aligned honed or install a stud girdle
and who's stuff do you recommend?


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Post  dfree383 on June 6th 2013, 12:32 pm

Program makes the nicest caps IMO but they aren't cheap.

Don't waste the time on any of the cheap girdles, only ones worth a crap are the ones that require you to machine the tops of the caps flat and have full contact with the girdle.
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Post  IDT-572 on June 6th 2013, 12:45 pm

dfree383 wrote:Program makes the nicest caps IMO but they aren't cheap.

Don't waste the time on any of the cheap girdles, only ones worth a crap are the ones that require you to machine the tops of the caps flat and have full contact with the girdle.

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Post  powerstrokeace on June 6th 2013, 12:51 pm

ANY LINK TO PROGRAM?

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Post  IDT-572 on June 6th 2013, 12:59 pm


Here you go...........

http://www.pro-gram.com/
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Post  powerstrokeace on June 6th 2013, 1:21 pm

GREAT! CALLED THEM AND LEFT A MESSAGE. HOPE THEY CALL BACK.

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Post  IDT-572 on June 6th 2013, 2:34 pm

You can probably buy them cheaper through one of there distributors. Just ask them if they have one near you.
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Post  powerstrokeace on June 6th 2013, 6:29 pm

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JUST TALKED TO A SHOP HERE IN TOWN AND THEY WANT $700 IN LABOR JUST TO DO THE 4 BOLT MAIN CONVERSION NOT COUNTING THE PARTS. AND THATS ONLY JOURNALS 2,3,4


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SORRY FOR THE CAP'S THE COMPUTERS AT WORK ARE FIXED LIKE THIS


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Post  DJStang on June 6th 2013, 6:39 pm

Wow..that's nuts for just the caps. I had some quotes a few years ago for $350-$400 to machine the blocka and align bore the caps. Can't see why it would be double that now.

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Post  the Coug on June 6th 2013, 6:39 pm

Ace just get you some 3/4 or 1" strap and have the caps cut flat and make a strap that goes across the main it will keep it from Bowing in the middle....
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Post  466cj on June 7th 2013, 1:21 am

the Coug wrote:Ace just get you some 3/4 or 1" strap and have the caps cut flat and make a strap that goes across the main it will keep it from Bowing in the middle....

X2 old school works! Add some good studs and a quick line hone be in business.

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Post  dfree383 on June 7th 2013, 1:24 am

http://www.429-460.com/t3597-cap-straps-installed?highlight=Cap+Straps#38811

Not as good as 4 bolt caps, but a whole lot better than a cheap girdle.
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Post  IDT-572 on June 7th 2013, 10:55 pm

466cj wrote:
the Coug wrote:Ace just get you some 3/4 or 1" strap and have the caps cut flat and make a strap that goes across the main it will keep it from Bowing in the middle....

X2 old school works! Add some good studs and a quick line hone be in business.

X2 Check with a dial bore gauge and sometimes line honing is not needed. (if your lucky)
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Post  466cj on June 7th 2013, 11:48 pm

IDT-572 wrote:
466cj wrote:
the Coug wrote:Ace just get you some 3/4 or 1" strap and have the caps cut flat and make a strap that goes across the main it will keep it from Bowing in the middle....

X2 old school works! Add some good studs and a quick line hone be in business.

X2 Check with a dial bore gauge and sometimes line honing is not needed. (if your lucky)

Yeah we were always too lazy to do that. Laughing Just about everything would get a quick hone just to see where everything was at. Gauge does not tell all and yes if the crank spins free likely in line, but a pass with the hone tells all.

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