4x4 project 84 F150
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
HorsinAround wrote:What are you going to do for Motor mounts?
I have a set of engine mounts I used to install a 460 into a 93 F150, I'm not 100% sure if they will work. They are like a solid mount with a single stud. I might have to change the engine mount tower's from the picture I see on JBG.
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I have the black mounts I used off another build but I don't have the gold perches shown in the picture. (I guess I will need the perches?)
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I received a phone call this evening letting me know that my transmission will be shipped out right after the first of the year! Getting excited to see one of the large parts of the puzzle.
Another question for you to chew on: Would it be better to have the transmission cooler in the radiator or a separate unit with it's own cooling fan? (I'm thinking of a Bar & plate unit rather than the tube style)
Another question for you to chew on: Would it be better to have the transmission cooler in the radiator or a separate unit with it's own cooling fan? (I'm thinking of a Bar & plate unit rather than the tube style)
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
Ok guys here is some pictures of the project truck.
Engine bay:
I have all ready restored some if the interior.
Before:
After:
Engine bay:
I have all ready restored some if the interior.
Before:
After:
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
Got another piece if the puzzle this week!
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I've been driving the truck a couple of weeks and tinkering with the stock I6 300. Fuel mileage has been 8-9mpg but I have never been tempted to try to better the mileage. These past couple of weeks I've been bored so I started tuning on the engine. I drive 100 miles a day and love driving the truck! I have managed to get the mpg up to 13.7mpg and thats on par with a early 2000 model year truck! I just can't wait to get the engine and start this project!
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New transfer case on the way! I decided to go with a Cyclone gear box. It is a 10" mated, straight thru with a 1:1 ratio. It mean's all time 4x4 but a lot stronger than any factory made transfer case. This isn't a daily driver so I can unlock the hubs for driving to the races and lock the hubs before a make any passes. I also found a 9" rear axle that will allow me to get rid of the c-clip axles and add disc brakes. I'm pretty excited that things are coming together.
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Engine is complete here is a link to the engine build in the Proven Build's section.
Unfortunately, I have been bleeding funds while I have been waiting for the engine. So I won't be able to do body work, DashPak, Vintage air, nice serpentine belt system. It won't be a show truck like I originally wanted. All is not lost though, I won't feel bad about using the truck in the mud or off road.
I will be making a trip in the future to pick the engine up in Kentucky. Still waiting for the Cyclone gear box to come in, it was suppose to be here 2 weeks ago. I can afford a lower cost lift kit for larger tires, I just don't want to go higher than needed. I'm currently running 31" mud tires and plan to burn those down to the cords as soon as I get the truck running.
Unfortunately, I have been bleeding funds while I have been waiting for the engine. So I won't be able to do body work, DashPak, Vintage air, nice serpentine belt system. It won't be a show truck like I originally wanted. All is not lost though, I won't feel bad about using the truck in the mud or off road.
I will be making a trip in the future to pick the engine up in Kentucky. Still waiting for the Cyclone gear box to come in, it was suppose to be here 2 weeks ago. I can afford a lower cost lift kit for larger tires, I just don't want to go higher than needed. I'm currently running 31" mud tires and plan to burn those down to the cords as soon as I get the truck running.
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
HorsinAround wrote:Looking real good bud. keep posting updates.
Thank's. I am bound and determined to complete this build. I have been struggling for the last couple of builds to complete the projects. I did have more than enough money to complete the project if I could have had all the parts when I first started. Since then there has been projects that have drained funds. It's been like I don't even have this project going on. As I have had nothing to show for the money spent for almost 6 months. If someone asked about disappointments of the project to date it would be that.
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Keep the lift as minimal as possible. This truck is going to be scary fast on the street and you want it to be as stable as possible. Did you ever come up w/ the final tire package you are going to run?
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
460bronco wrote:Keep the lift as minimal as possible. This truck is going to be scary fast on the street and you want it to be as stable as possible. Did you ever come up w/ the final tire package you are going to run?
I really don't want to run a lift. I could run cut out fender flares. The tires on the truck in the pictures are 31x10.5/15. I wanted to run boggers but those are expensive to be running on the streets. Just imagine driving down to Stateline! So I have no clue what to run for tires, 35's would be nice but I doubt they clear.
I have been looking for the widest 33" tire and a larger wheel.
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You are going to need 2 sets of tires. 1 for the street and 1 for offroad. If you want to mud race the truck, the tires need to be pristine! After some street time any mud tire is going to be hurting in its dirt hook-up capability. I have a set of 37" boggers and have got a ton of street time out of them. I have had my truck up well over 100mph w/ the boggers on, but don't feel good about it at all. At the last race, I ran a set of 35x10.5 boggers and the truck hooked unbelievably hard. Its not everyone's opinion, but I have found that narrow mud tires work extremely good. On my truck a 38.5x11 definitely out performs my 37x13. I haven't ran 38.5x15, but the narrow tire has been the way to go on my truck.
Do you see yourself street racing the truck or mud racing the truck more?
Do you see yourself street racing the truck or mud racing the truck more?
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That's good info!
Narrow tires make since for mud racing. Especially if you know there is a hard bottom. I'm just so use to wide tires for high flotation for when I drive in my swamp. A narrow tire would help you cut through the mud if your not able to get on top of it. What would you suggest for tires? Don't they still have those classes that you can race what ever you drive in the gate? I know my truck would be placed in the modified class being I have a dominator and aluminum heads.
It is my hope to run the truck more at mud races than at the track. I have said I'd do some street racing but if I had enough mud races to get my fix I wouldn't race on the street. I haven't been to a mud races since my Polaris Ranger went down. (Pulling the ranger is no longer needed. The ranger has grown and requires a much larger trailer and I'm not ready to buy a big trailer until I finish this project and buy a tow truck.)
Narrow tires make since for mud racing. Especially if you know there is a hard bottom. I'm just so use to wide tires for high flotation for when I drive in my swamp. A narrow tire would help you cut through the mud if your not able to get on top of it. What would you suggest for tires? Don't they still have those classes that you can race what ever you drive in the gate? I know my truck would be placed in the modified class being I have a dominator and aluminum heads.
It is my hope to run the truck more at mud races than at the track. I have said I'd do some street racing but if I had enough mud races to get my fix I wouldn't race on the street. I haven't been to a mud races since my Polaris Ranger went down. (Pulling the ranger is no longer needed. The ranger has grown and requires a much larger trailer and I'm not ready to buy a big trailer until I finish this project and buy a tow truck.)
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
Make sure you wash it real good before hitting the track..... Ain't noting pisses drag racers off more than waiting to have a track cleaned....
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Re: 4x4 project 84 F150
dfree383 wrote:Make sure you wash it real good before hitting the track..... Ain't noting pisses drag racers off more than waiting to have a track cleaned....
X2 after it makes a bounce or two mud pies fall out all the way down the track plus track personal don't like it
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I know what you mean. I worked a starting line for 3 years.
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I finally received the gear box. A picture of the gear box and mock-up. The transmission output shaft is .875 too long. (I could either cut the shaft down or machine a spacer ring.) I have started machining a spacer ring for stainless steel. I am going to make the spacer .900 thick just to keep the shaft from bottoming out.
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Does the t-case bolt to a factory adapter?
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460bronco wrote:Does the t-case bolt to a factory adapter?
Yes, it bolts directly too the extension housing and can be clocked.
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Looks really stout! So what features does the box have? Can you change gears? Does it have a chain?
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460bronco wrote:Looks really stout! So what features does the box have? Can you change gears? Does it have a chain?
it is a straight cut gear box suppose to be good for a ton of power. It is a quick change gear box, but the design only allows you to change the gear ratio going to the front axle. In case you want to run smaller diameter in the front. It weights 80lbs.
They where the only manufacturer I could find that offered. Mated straight thru design.
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I took the truck to a body shop to have the frame checked for straightness and pull the bed out square before just going off and buying a bed. Come to find out the frame was bent. When they straightened the frame it pulled the bed back into shape. Picked the truck up from the body shop 6-5-15 and looks a thousands time better!
it's almost time to start digging into the truck!
PS. I got a new job two weeks ago so I have slowed down until I get settled in my new job.
it's almost time to start digging into the truck!
PS. I got a new job two weeks ago so I have slowed down until I get settled in my new job.
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Underhood paint question: While the engine is out I'd love to paint the engine compartment. The cheapest and easiest way would be to use a rattle can. Do any of you know if there is anyone that makes a red close in color to the Ford 2E, light canyon red? (VHT, etc.) I looked on the internet and found some places that could mix the color I need and put it into a aresol can but the price jumps way up there
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