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Post  IDT-572 on July 20th 2017, 12:56 am

Just saw this Car and driver test.

Check the towing performance of the Eco boost.

We have both at work, and driving both, I have to agree with this article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2016-ford-f-150-50l-v-8-4x4-vs-2016-ford-f-150-35l-ecoboost-4x4-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-4
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Post  rmcomprandy on July 20th 2017, 9:41 am

IDT-572 wrote:Just saw this Car and driver test.

Check the towing performance of the Eco boost.

We have both at work, and driving both, I have to agree with this article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2016-ford-f-150-50l-v-8-4x4-vs-2016-ford-f-150-35l-ecoboost-4x4-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-4

Problem will be that there won't be many of these running well after 10 years or so like the older 351W engines.

Left alone ... the turbos probably won't work well after that amount of time.

A lot of people take "SERVICE" as just another dirty word.

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Post  Copperhead on July 20th 2017, 9:55 am

I guess I'm a little different,.......

If I was in the market for a new Truck,..... I'd opt for the 5.0 & install this,....
https://www.procharger.com/truck-superchargers/ford/f-150/2015-f-150-50-4v#/2015-f-150-50-4v-overview
It would spank that Ecoboost with ease,....

The Coyote motors absolutely LOVE Boost !!
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Post  68formalGT on July 20th 2017, 1:31 pm

Look up EDP in Colorado Springs on Facebook if you have it. They did a short bed regular cab 4x4 with a 5.0 and added twin 55mm turbos to a stock engine with a stock transmission and smoked everyone in the Thin Air Mayhem no prep race a few weeks ago.

I'd like to see how well the twin 55mm kit on a F250 with a 6.2 would tow.
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Post  cool40 on July 20th 2017, 1:46 pm

I've never saw a small turbo deal have a long life. 5.0 FTW afro
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Post  supervel45 on July 20th 2017, 3:23 pm

68formalGT wrote:Look up EDP in Colorado Springs on Facebook if you have it. They did a short bed regular cab 4x4 with a 5.0 and added twin 55mm turbos to a stock engine with a stock transmission and smoked everyone in the Thin Air Mayhem no prep race a few weeks ago.

I'd like to see how well the twin 55mm kit on a F250 with a 6.2 would tow.

Where they running in 4WD? If yes I can see it.

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Post  supervel45 on July 20th 2017, 3:26 pm

cool40 wrote:I've never saw a small turbo deal have a long life. 5.0 FTW  afro

I hope all the talk I hear of Ford dropping the 5.0's from trucks is wrong.

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Post  68formalGT on July 20th 2017, 3:35 pm

supervel45 wrote:
68formalGT wrote:Look up EDP in Colorado Springs on Facebook if you have it. They did a short bed regular cab 4x4 with a 5.0 and added twin 55mm turbos to a stock engine with a stock transmission and smoked everyone in the Thin Air Mayhem no prep race a few weeks ago.

I'd like to see how well the twin 55mm kit on a F250 with a 6.2 would tow.

Where they running in 4WD? If yes I can see it.

I don't think so, they had an AWD/FWD class but he was in the Hard Tire class
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Post  wayney on July 20th 2017, 6:24 pm

friend of mine has an ecoboost 4x4 f150 with a tune runs 12.6 in the 1/4 . that's impressive . for long term towing I think the 5.0 would have to be my choice IF i had to get a new gas truck. that's why i keep my 97 460 truck.
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Post  dfree383 on July 20th 2017, 7:23 pm

I wish they would come out with a small diesel at a reasonable price...... but with the stickers pushing 50 MF'n k now I'm probably dreaming.

I honestly don't know how a lot of people can afford these damn trucks
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Post  cool40 on July 20th 2017, 9:05 pm

dfree383 wrote:I wish they would come out with a small diesel at a reasonable price...... but with the stickers pushing 50 MF'n k now I'm probably dreaming.

I honestly don't know how a lot of people can afford these damn trucks
no $hit! That's why I'm getting out the old 80 model for the EFI swap!
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Post  Mark Miller on July 20th 2017, 11:11 pm

IDT-572 wrote:Just saw this Car and driver test.

Check the towing performance of the Eco boost.

We have both at work, and driving both, I have to agree with this article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2016-ford-f-150-50l-v-8-4x4-vs-2016-ford-f-150-35l-ecoboost-4x4-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-4

I've driven the 5.0 F-150's in the 2011-2014 models and the 2015 and up the 3.5L in the same model trucks.I agree with you and the Car and Driver article.Sure you can beat the Eco Boost with a 5.0 with a Turbo or supercharger but they ain't cheap!!!The 3.5L Eco Boost with a $600 tune will run 12's like Wayne mentioned.I have a bone stock 2015 F-150 Super Cab 4x4 with the 2.7L Eco Boost and 3.55 gears and it ran a 14.53@92.55 mph!!!!Smile Smile

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Post  68formalGT on July 20th 2017, 11:39 pm

I've got a 2012 Super Crew 3.5 EcoBoost with the 3.73 gears and it's impressive. I'm up to 70,000 miles with no real issues (I had the vacuum pump changed on warranty/recall), it tows my open trailer with my 1979 Bronco mud bogger and all my gear in the bed and goes over Colorado mountain passes easily. That being said I'd still like to know how a F250-350 with 6.2 and a couple turbos would tow? I know how well a 6.7 pulls but would the 6.2 be close without the added maintenance of the 6.7?
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Post  rmcomprandy on July 21st 2017, 10:06 am

dfree383 wrote:I wish they would come out with a small diesel at a reasonable price...... but with the stickers pushing 50 MF'n k now I'm probably dreaming.

I honestly don't know how a lot of people can afford these damn trucks

Ford Truck recently offered a gasoline engine which was a great engine called the "Raptor" but, decided they didn't need it anymore because they claimed it was simply reducing the sales of their diesel powered options.

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Post  jasonf on July 22nd 2017, 9:32 pm

I looked at trucks today in TN and a 3.7 eco, 10 spd, F150 Lariat 4x4 was $61k. The same price as a XLT 4x4 F250 powerstroke. The Lariat powerstroke was $65. WTF are these people thinking??
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Post  BigRigTech on July 23rd 2017, 8:55 pm

My old 99 F250 4x4 is set to roll 300,000 miles here shortly and I wouldn't trade it for nothing....7.3's never die. I put a TS 6 position chip on it, best thing I've done to the truck. I only run it on 50HP or 70HP and it will pull up the big hills as good as anything on the road and still get me 15mpg (imperial not US). Empty I have seen up to 22mpg. That new stuff is absolutely retarded in price, I don't know how people do it.
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Post  68formalGT on July 23rd 2017, 9:08 pm

BigRigTech wrote:My old 99 F250 4x4 is set to roll 300,000 miles here shortly and I wouldn't trade it for nothing....7.3's never die. I put a TS 6 position chip on it, best thing I've done to the truck. I only run it on 50HP or 70HP and it will pull up the big hills as good as anything on the road and still get me 15mpg (imperial not US). Empty I have seen up to 22mpg. That new stuff is absolutely retarded in price, I don't know how people do it.

What else did you do besides the chip?
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Post  BigRigTech on July 23rd 2017, 10:38 pm

Turbo back 4" MBRP exhaust system, tymar style intake, EBPV delete, air intake heater delete. I have autometer boost, pyro and trans temp gauges to keep an eye on things. I've never had it above 70hp, it has up to a 140hp race tune. With all the miles on my old girl I don't see the point in pushing it any harder than needed. It pulls my open car trailer/Mustang down the road like it's not even there on the 50hp tune and if I need a touch more on a hill I flip it to 70hp. I watch my pyro and try to not let it cross 1100F, the probe is right behind #8 in the manifold. It pulls our camper well too. I have a small exhaust leak at #8 to be fixed and I think my wastegate is opening light so I need to check that too...But all in all I have no complaints about the old truck, it treats me well.
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Post  68formalGT on July 23rd 2017, 10:47 pm

I've got a 1996 that I bought new that hasn't had anything done to it other then maintenance, 4" lift and 35" tires. I heard the down pipe and a chip works pretty good. I was thinking about adding an intercooler, you can tell how hot it is out by the way it tows.
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Post  IDT-572 on July 25th 2017, 2:54 pm

I was just impressed by the tq under 2000 rpm. Towing the EB kills the 5.0.

I have seen guys arguing the 5.0 will smoke an EB, THATS BS. it feels like its faster, but the wide power curve of the v6 turbo is miss leading on what it's actually doing.

I doubt I would buy one. Repairs on one of those make ne nervous.............

I have pulled trailers here at work and when these deals shift into the next gear, their pulling like a freight train full tq on the gear recovery. You don't have to wait on rpm to build to make power.

I didn't post this article to say this is the ultimate end all engine, hell a twin turbo 96 F350 460 would murder all the other combos you guys were talking about.

I do think this way of thinking is where our engines are going, small inch turbo................

Any body heard of the new Godzilla V8 coming out in the small trucks?
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Post  rmcomprandy on July 25th 2017, 6:45 pm

Personally ..iwo.  uld be looking for one of these in a 2014 F-150 or a 2017 Super Duty - used, in good condition, low-mileage.

www.f150hub.com/specs/ford-6.2.html

Just for information sake ... these engines used a flat head Ford firing order.

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Post  jasonf on July 25th 2017, 7:07 pm

I think for pulling an open or smaller closed trailer they would be great (my friends really like theirs). I have a problem with the cost being that of a super duty.

As far as the old 7.3 comments everything else starts wearing out by a couple hundred thousand miles. I have an 03 and every month I fix something and diesels are not cheap. If you need a super reliable vehicle because you work out of town and can't be stranded anything old is not feasible. That's how they get you.
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Post  DanE on July 25th 2017, 7:15 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:Personally ..iwo.  uld be looking for one of these in a 2014 F-150 or a 2017 Super Duty - used, in good condition, low-mileage.

www.f150hub.com/specs/ford-6.2.html

Just for information sake ... these engines used a flat head Ford firing order.


I am very impressed by the 6.2 in my Raptor.
I installed a cold air intake, MagnaFlow cat back duals, and an an electronic tune.
At 130 MPH it is still pulling very strong. Very Strong.
Great truck. The suspension soaks up these rough Michigan roads with ease.
The 6 speed auto has a 4.17 first gear and a 4.11 differential. It has gear advantage on the start.

I drove Don Bowles Raptor at the engine seminar, and that was one very, very strong performing truck. I think it was a 7 and 7. Not sure.

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Post  68formalGT on July 25th 2017, 7:55 pm

Finding the 6.2's in F150's and F250's isn't easy.
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Post  res0rli9 on July 26th 2017, 9:35 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nUCx5IQZro

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