Does the Inovator's west dampner have to be honed to fit the crank?

Does the Inovator's west dampner have to be honed to fit the crank like the ATI does???? thx.

Charles here is the instruction sheet , also what brand crank do you have ?

http://innovatorswest.com/instructions/Generic%20Install%20Instructions.pdf

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deliveredfast wrote:Does the Inovator's west dampner have to be honed to fit the crank like the ATI does???? thx.

in the instruction's it says not to hone

At the end of the day....o.d. of the snout vs the i.d. of the dampner hub is the deal ...could the the dampner hub be small ...yes...could the crank be large ? The rest of this story is called engine building . About .001" interference fit is good . It aint legos or Lincoln logs .

Thx guys.

So Lem, are you saying it's OK to hone a little if need be? I did and I can't see the problem w/it.

bbf-falcon wrote:So Lem, are you saying it's OK to hone a little if need be? I did and I can't see the problem w/it.

I believe he is saying it may or may not be necessary its gonna depend on what you have and if ur having trouble or not. I believe the ATI dampeners tell right off the rip that you have to hone them. I could be wrong though.

Yes , ATI darn sure gotta be honed . I've seen some after market cranks that the snout was a tick bigger than a stock Ford 460....in that case A guy'd need to hone the dampner no matter the brand .

Yea, Thats true. My ATI fit all of my Ford Cranks,then when I got my new crank from Adney , I tried to slip it on and it said(I don't think so)but,it did'nt take much.

My experience:

Scat Balancer and Scat Crank. I tried to install and it was way too tight. I purchaced a MAC Tools Installer and the balance wanted to go on crooked. Measured the crank and balancer. Sent out the balancer to be honed. Went on fine after that.

x2 on the hone deal ^ above.

Generally it is not needed to hone them, but like it has been mentioned above it depends on the OD measurement of the crank snout. We have seen some come in over spec and a couple that were below spec. Feel free to hone them if needed, but be careful to leave .001" press fit. If the rare occasion comes up that you have a crank that is undersized, give us a call and we can make up an undersized hub and hone it to your crank specs.

Chris
Innovators West

Injected65 wrote:Generally it is not needed to hone them, but like it has been mentioned above it depends on the OD measurement of the crank snout. We have seen some come in over spec and a couple that were below spec. Feel free to hone them if needed, but be careful to leave .001" press fit. If the rare occasion comes up that you have a crank that is undersized, give us a call and we can make up an undersized hub and hone it to your crank specs.

Chris
Innovators West

hey Chris, is it a fluid dampner?

The dampening mechanism is a wet clutch pack design. The fluid inside is not there for dampening but for its lubrication and heat dissipation properties. Prior to 1997, under the previous ownership, the dampners were more prone to leak. Since that time the fastener arrangement was changed around and the parts starting being made with CNC machines. There are no more leak issues.

i believe Chris said this somewhere .... i keep good notes

bruno wrote:The dampening mechanism is a wet clutch pack design. The fluid inside is not there for dampening but for its lubrication and heat dissipation properties. Prior to 1997, under the previous ownership, the dampners were more prone to leak. Since that time the fastener arrangement was changed around and the parts starting being made with CNC machines. There are no more leak issues.

i believe Chris said this somewhere .... i keep good notes

Have you been tapping the phones?

This the unit we put on Bruno's 562"

i take it they use a chevy balancer pulley like the ATI's do.

There is a stock 460 style dampner for the long snout cranks that has the stock 4 bolt pulley pattern. There is also a version for the Boss snout cranks that has the Chevy bolt pattern as more of the race guys were using Chevy pulleys and drive mandrels.

I guess its all a matter of don't assume everything is ok and check stuff regardless. If its needs loved on then love on it. Even the pulley deal, just make it work to fit your application.

Injected65 wrote:There is a stock 460 style dampner for the long snout cranks that has the stock 4 bolt pulley pattern. There is also a version for the Boss snout cranks that has the Chevy bolt pattern as more of the race guys were using Chevy pulleys and drive mandrels.

okay thank you

As fine a balancer as money can buy in my opinion. And yes, in the interest of full disclosure, I own one!

Nevs wrote:As fine a balancer as money can buy in my opinion. And yes, in the interest of full disclosure, I own one!

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