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In much need of suspension help!

Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 6:46 pm

Ok guys, I have collected all the data, taken video, have racepak data, now I need a expert to help sort it out. Running a 88 notch with a 547 and a glide on a 10.5 tire, local heads up deal. Car runs mid 9's @ 144 in 8300da with a 1.39 60 on a good track. Motor made peak hp at 7000 and peak tq at 5300, crossing the line at 6750 currently. Just made the switch to a glide this year and I believe I need more gear, running 3.73 now and going to go to a 4.10 to help the car leave harder. Afco da in back, strange single's in the front, not sure of spring rates, I bought the car with them, the back I am pretty sure are stock. Team z parts in rear, with relocated uppers. Trans has a 1.80 straight cut and a ptc converter. Hoosier slicks running around 12psi. The instant center calculations are not to good, I plotted them on induction motorsports and came up with IC length 26.017. IC height 7.83, AS 138.437. Need to move IC out I am thinking and get AS down and also keep stock mounting locations to meet rules. Where and what do I do first? I someone to give me some direction so I can figure this out and keep beating the chevy guys. Smile

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Re: In much need of suspension help!

Post  whatbumper on June 21st 2010, 7:21 pm

pictures? weights? video?

We'll get you figured out.

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Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 7:35 pm

Weighs 3110 with driver. What is the best way to put up video? On the racepak I can leave on the converter with hardly any spinning. Car has 5" of travel with limiters if needed and I think they are. Rear suspension hardly moves, tried some different shock settings, but the best I could do was a 1.38.
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Re: In much need of suspension help!

Post  Larry Williams on June 21st 2010, 7:57 pm

what is your rear upper set at?

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Post  richter69 on June 21st 2010, 8:15 pm

converter stall? fallback on the shift?

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Re: In much need of suspension help!

Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 8:17 pm

Rear upper, do you mean length, if so that would be 6 7/8". The converter stalls right at 5400.

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Post  richter69 on June 21st 2010, 8:19 pm

where do you shift and whats the rpm fall back to?

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Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 8:22 pm

I have been shifting right at 7000, falls back to 5750. Might be some more in changing shift point, haven't got that far yet with this motor.

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Post  richter69 on June 21st 2010, 8:24 pm

also cam? compression? cyl head?

I'm leaning towards a gear swap, keep it in the powerband where its happy.

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Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 8:31 pm

Cam is fairly serious, don't have cam card in front of me, but it is a hair over .800 with .275 duration at .050, 14.1 comp. and full out p-51's.

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Post  richter69 on June 21st 2010, 8:48 pm

I don't have my sliderule in front of me, a 4.11-4.30 gear will do it wonders, let it 60' good, shift it 7100 or so...let it cross 7300ish.............converter is fairly snug, but not by much..............tighter converter with steeper gear the car go boogity boogity..............

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Post  Larry Williams on June 21st 2010, 8:52 pm

you stated the uppers were relocated. How? Did you lower the front mounting point?

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Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 8:59 pm

Thats what I was kinda thinking a gear change could help richter, but I am thinking the suspension will need work to get it to the ground. Thanks for your opinion, makes spending money on gears a little easier, any guesses how much it might gain?
Larry the uppers are relocated with the team z setup, it moves the rear of the upper bar up some.

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Post  Larry Williams on June 21st 2010, 9:27 pm

wouldn't that shorten the ic distance the same way lowering the front point would?

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Post  nitro521 on June 21st 2010, 9:34 pm

Yes on the calculator is does shorten the ic and add antisquat.

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