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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 7:09 pm

Well I know I could just put the cam in the engine BUT, I want to do it the right way and degree it. I was thinking about the Summit degree kit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1056/

My cam is...
http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=2287

I wish there was a way around degreeing it so I could spend the money on something else. But are there any tips about degreeing a cam that I should know about other than what a manual will tell me? I know a bigger wheel is better since its more accurate, but right now I'm not doing it for a living so I'm not too worried about it. Overall I know how its done.
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Post  res0rli9 November 28th 2010, 7:36 pm

For a few $ more you can get the good one that Lem has for sale in the for sale sec. imop Smile

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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 7:46 pm

res0rli9 wrote:For a few $ more you can get the good one that Lem has for sale in the for sale sec. imop Smile
I wanted to get the 10" Jomar one from Jon Kaase for $70, but I need the dial indicator too. I mean I have a dial indicator but I'm not 100% sure how it works and I need the magnetic base. The dial indicator I have is out of my grandpas garage. I need the piston stop too which comes with both kits.
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Post  richter69 November 28th 2010, 7:54 pm

I'd see if they make an electric degree wheel, no real experience myself, but I hear they ain't worth a shit............
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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 7:55 pm

I take that back, I do have a magnetic base. I could just get the wheel and maybe fab something to stop the piston then. I heard of people doing it while the heads are on, but the heads don't have to be on today.
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Post  Lem Evans November 28th 2010, 7:56 pm

bb429power wrote:
res0rli9 wrote:For a few $ more you can get the good one that Lem has for sale in the for sale sec. imop Smile
I wanted to get the 10" Jomar one from Jon Kaase for $70, but I need the dial indicator too. I mean I have a dial indicator but I'm not 100% sure how it works and I need the magnetic base. The dial indicator I have is out of my grandpas garage. I need the piston stop too which comes with both kits.
Don't make this harder than it is.......Jomar is right down the road in Pontiac, Mi. Ask for J.B. I'll have him take care of you.....he knows how to find me. Just drive over there.......meeting J.A. [the senior member of the firm] will be worth the trip Exclamation

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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 7:57 pm

richter69 wrote:I'd see if they make an electric degree wheel, no real experience myself, but I hear they ain't worth a shit............
Whats not worth $#!t? The Jomar one? They have an electronic one vvvvvvv
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ALT-DCAM/
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Post  richter69 November 28th 2010, 8:00 pm

bb429power wrote:
richter69 wrote:I'd see if they make an electric degree wheel, no real experience myself, but I hear they ain't worth a shit............
Whats not worth $#!t? The Jomar one? They have an electronic one vvvvvvv
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ALT-DCAM/


can you tow a car with it?
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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 8:04 pm

Maybe...

Lem, thanks for letting me know that. I never knew they were in Mi, I let my dad know. We'll see about going there thanks you for the offer and the information once again.
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Post  69F100 November 28th 2010, 8:44 pm

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1056/




Justin that is one like I used of Rick's aka 557 mazda when I degreed mine I believe it is worth the money myself with all you get with it and I did mine with the heads on.

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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 8:51 pm

69F100 wrote:http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1056/




Justin that is one like I used of Rick's aka 557 mazda when I degreed mine I believe it is worth the money myself with all you get with it and I did mine with the heads on.

Jim
Cool, thanks for letting me know that. Maybe I'll do it with the heads on after I check the piston to deck clearance and drive a bolt in to the spark plug hole. I could get this kit then let my bro keep the dial indicator that my grandpa had since I kept all the micrometers from his garage too Laughing What did you set the magnetic base on? The side of the deck or maybe on top of the other lifter bores? Thanks a bunch. Smile
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Post  69F100 November 28th 2010, 8:55 pm

with the heads on you need a old solid flat tappit lifter to use when degreeing it in
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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 8:57 pm

69F100 wrote:with the heads on you need a old solid flat tappit lifter to use when degreeing it in
Can't I get to the lifter's rim from inside the lifter valley? I can leave the intake off.
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Post  69F100 November 28th 2010, 9:06 pm

yes leave the intake off used a screw driver to put down in the spark plug hole to fine top dead center.The degreeing wheel come with instuction that is not hard to read and follow.
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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 9:09 pm

69F100 wrote:used a screw driver to put down in the spark plug hole to fine top dead center.
That brings back some old memories from the cam swaps I have done Laughing Alright, I'll get it all done and then I can really start cranking on this build. Very Happy
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Post  TravisRice November 28th 2010, 9:12 pm

bb429power wrote:
69F100 wrote:used a screw driver to put down in the spark plug hole to fine top dead center.
That brings back some old memories from the cam swaps I have done Very Happy

Rolling Eyes 16 years old and already got old memories , oh boy . Razz

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Post  res0rli9 November 28th 2010, 9:18 pm

Don't make this harder than it is.......Jomar is right down the road in Pontiac, Mi. Ask for J.B. I'll have him take care of you.....he knows how to find me. Just drive over there.......meeting J.A. [the senior member of the firm] will be worth the trip.



Now that is AAA+ service right there. It just don't get any better than that.















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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 9:22 pm

TravisRice wrote:
bb429power wrote:
69F100 wrote:used a screw driver to put down in the spark plug hole to fine top dead center.
That brings back some old memories from the cam swaps I have done Very Happy

Rolling Eyes 16 years old and already got old memories , oh boy . Razz
Dang right I do, it feels like its been so long. But I'm only 16, I can only imagine what it will be like when I'm in my older years. I like to look back at the good old days, hanging out with my friends. I can't tell you the last time I had a friend over or spent a day hanging out with one of them. I lost my best friend because I decided to take a different route than him. I can only try so hard to mend things, its sad. I really don't have friends like a 16 year old should have and I'm trying my best to make some GOOD friends that I can actually depend on. I try my best, its not an easy thing to admit either. I cherish everything I have, because of what I have lost.
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Post  Mike R November 28th 2010, 9:37 pm

Don't feel bad. I'm going to be 50 and can count the number of real friends I have on one hand.

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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 9:46 pm

Mike R wrote:Don't feel bad. I'm going to be 50 and can count the number of real friends I have on one hand.
Thanks for that, I'd at least like someone to hang out with while in school still. I'm in advanced auto right now and making better friends. I kill myself everytime I think about what happened between me and my best friend, he's the one who's dad raced a top alcohol dragster up until this year. His dads name is Jeff Bohr.
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Post  TravisRice November 28th 2010, 10:01 pm

Just Razzin you. Wait till you get older. Time really does fly.

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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 10:03 pm

TravisRice wrote:Just Razzin you. Wait till you get older. Time really does fly.

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I know you were. I already think time flies by, I don't want to now how fast it goes when your older. Shocked
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Post  TravisRice November 28th 2010, 10:08 pm

Seems like I just turned 20 .......................... 20 years ago. Worst part about it is watching your parents get older. Sad

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Post  bb429power November 28th 2010, 10:15 pm

TravisRice wrote:Seems like I just turned 20 .......................... 20 years ago. Worst part about it is watching your parents get older. Sad
That's gotta be tough, I would even hate knowing my kids are watching me get older. I want to be around for my kids (when and if I do have kids) for as long as I possibly can. And how many kids my age actually have something like that in perspective? I feel darn tootin' mature Razz
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