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quick 52 on March 23rd 2011, 7:57 pm
would like to run 2 stages thru a "Y" in a cheater plate. stage 1 50hp 37n 37f stage 2 100hp. but dont know what jets are needed for a total 150hp. nos said the dual shot "Y" are used in a stage 1 on stage 2 on stage1 off set up. but you can push both stages thru a "Y" but is very hard to tune for
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Re: stage stacking
studly on March 24th 2011, 10:16 am
The Y fitting in the line will not change the tuneups if you are feeding to the y then lines from y to plates, stacking the plates with the recomended 50 and 50 should net over 125hp but the square tuneups the plate come with are going to be way too rich. What type of motor? what Compression/ what are the ring gaps set at? What are the cam specs? cranking compression? Base Timing? What Heads? What Fuel? What Plugs?
alot of information needed.
Good Luck
alot of information needed.
Good Luck
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Re: stage stacking
quick 52 on March 24th 2011, 2:39 pm
my build is 1952 ford f1 truck #3870
.060 over 472 deck .005 in hole
stock crank and balancer
stock rods with arp bolts
kb cast piston rings gap for spray .008 per inch
258 258 @ .050 .615 .615 1.73 scorpoin rockers
A429 heads cut .050 to 69cc
victor with 1" open spacer 950 biggs carb holley
1 3/4 header with 3" ex with h pipe into turbo muffers
700r4 trans 3500 stall
9" 3.89 eaton true trac
mt dr 275x60x15
best pass on motor 11.51 @ 115 1.51 60ft. best pass on spray 11.18 @126 191 60ft only spray it twice the track would not hook that day for me or anyone else. spray it with a 100hp super power shot
.060 over 472 deck .005 in hole
stock crank and balancer
stock rods with arp bolts
kb cast piston rings gap for spray .008 per inch
258 258 @ .050 .615 .615 1.73 scorpoin rockers
A429 heads cut .050 to 69cc
victor with 1" open spacer 950 biggs carb holley
1 3/4 header with 3" ex with h pipe into turbo muffers
700r4 trans 3500 stall
9" 3.89 eaton true trac
mt dr 275x60x15
best pass on motor 11.51 @ 115 1.51 60ft. best pass on spray 11.18 @126 191 60ft only spray it twice the track would not hook that day for me or anyone else. spray it with a 100hp super power shot
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Re: stage stacking
the Coug on March 24th 2011, 4:13 pm
there is an old saying you don't have money to do it right, but you have the money to do it twice!
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Re: stage stacking
studly on March 24th 2011, 9:04 pm
i think if you are running the factory jettings for the super power shot you where leaving some on the table. also you have alot of work to do with your suspension before you should try any more jet, and as the coug said you may be spending alot later on by trying to push to much into your set up. if it was me and i had a NOS Cheater plate i would start with the smallest N20 jet in the kit and try to clean the plug by taking fuel jet away from it. but you need to get the truck to hook before you try more jet.
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Re: stage stacking
quick 52 on March 25th 2011, 8:27 am
truck does hook very well 1.50 60ft is good for a daily driver. not new to spraying just was asking if anyone new about stacking thru "Y" in a cheater plater thats all.
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Re: stage stacking
quick 52 on March 30th 2011, 1:05 pm
talked with Monty Smith he said to run the on off set up that its the easier to tune. will work well my small tune. the tune he gave was stage 1 50hp 40n 32f stage 2 150hp 65n 52f with 26 degrees of timing. and if i run 93 oct. timing at 24
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Re: stage stacking
studly on March 31st 2011, 9:00 am
that sounds alot better than the tune ups you had before. good luck let us know how it does
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Re: stage stacking
quick 52 on March 31st 2011, 7:51 pm
in my thread valve cover in engine some r using the term reg. is that regulator or solenoid take a look
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Re: stage stacking
studly on March 31st 2011, 10:16 pm
i am pretty sure they are talking about the fuel regulator, most of the time these are the common terms
selonoid fuel or n20
distribuition block fuel or n20 usually used on fogger n20 systems with one large inlet and 4 smaller outlets
regulator fuel only usally a holley part number 803
fuel log a long piece of alumunuim with multiple ports for regulators usually more than one holley 803 mounted
i got kinda confused when you said mounting to the nos fuel log to me this would mean you where mounting the seperate holley 803 for the fuel side of the nitrous to the valve cover? most nitrous cars have the fuel log mounted in front of the front motor plate or front of timing chain cover with multiple holley 803 regulators and just run seperate line for each plate or fogger, this allows for flowing each regulator for each plate or fogger, then the N20 LINE comes in from the back of the motor from inside the car/truck with a Y fitting or what they call a shower head that has one line going in and multiple n20 lines coming out to feed the plates or fogger.
Do you have any pictures?
selonoid fuel or n20
distribuition block fuel or n20 usually used on fogger n20 systems with one large inlet and 4 smaller outlets
regulator fuel only usally a holley part number 803
fuel log a long piece of alumunuim with multiple ports for regulators usually more than one holley 803 mounted
i got kinda confused when you said mounting to the nos fuel log to me this would mean you where mounting the seperate holley 803 for the fuel side of the nitrous to the valve cover? most nitrous cars have the fuel log mounted in front of the front motor plate or front of timing chain cover with multiple holley 803 regulators and just run seperate line for each plate or fogger, this allows for flowing each regulator for each plate or fogger, then the N20 LINE comes in from the back of the motor from inside the car/truck with a Y fitting or what they call a shower head that has one line going in and multiple n20 lines coming out to feed the plates or fogger.
Do you have any pictures?
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Re: stage stacking
studly on March 31st 2011, 10:32 pm
FUEL LOG
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Re: stage stacking
studly on March 31st 2011, 10:52 pm
FUEL LOG ON FRONT OF MOTOR WITH SEPERAT N20 FUEL REGS
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Re: stage stacking
bruno on April 1st 2011, 6:44 am
studly wrote:
FUEL LOG
thats a nice piece ...... i believe Steve offers one also ....ck his site out
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Re: stage stacking
quick 52 on April 4th 2011, 9:31 am
is it better to use hard line to from solenoid to plate or stainless braided hose. if hose do you no a good site to buy from
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