Powerglide doesn't do anything....

Got a somewhat fresh glide. FedEx dropped the one I bought and cracked the case so I bought a case from ATI and had the local shop swap the internals into the new case. Anyway I got it installed in the dragster, filled with fluid and it doesn't go into gear. The car will not move!

Any clues on what to look for first? I'll be calling the trans shop tomorrow to see what they say. It's got about 8.5-9 quarts of fluid in it. I'm only asking here since it's late, they're closed and maybe there's a chance I did something wrong.

The shift linkage is adjusted correctly. Only thing we noticed is that the transbrake doesn't click. It's like the valve in the valve body that the t-brake solenoid actuates is stuck in. I can pull the t-brake solenoid out and it'll work from there, but it will not spring back out like it should. BUT if the engine is running and the trans is put into reverse or fwd the solenoid will move out where it needs to be.

The trans guy did mention that the valve in the valve body that is worked by the t-brake solenoid looked like it was polished to allow it to move easier. He said the new valve he installed (the old one was bent by FedEx) moved OK, but might be in a bind when running. In other words the valve is not pushing out the t-brake solenoid like it should. What would this cause? Would it cause the no gear symptoms I have?

I'll see what the shop says tomorrow. Hopefully I can get the trans guy to come to our shop to look at it during the AM, fix it and then we can head to the track tomorrow night. The car is ready! Just need the trans to cooperate!

it wont take any gear? converter pulled out of the pump? just a guess.

Don't think so. I only had about an 1/8" of play between the converter feet and the flexplate.

Right input shaft ??? Some glide's use a "turbo" input shaft . I forget which way it goes, but if you have one type of shaft ( turbo) and the opposite converter (Glide) you get what you got...

It sounds like it has little or no pump pressure to the right places.
One hint is the trans brake valve that stays "in". Many of the Pro brakes do not use a spring to push the valve to the "off" position. Transmission line pressure pushes the brake plunger rearward when the engine is running. They call these the Fluid Release type.
If you have proper converter tang engagement, the most likely culprit is the assembler did not get the manual valve in the valve body aligned with the pin on the Rooster Comb inside the trans. This way, the manual valve does not move when you move the shifter.
Other than that, there would be a missing part or something else causing a drastic internal leak.
If you feel like dropping the pan, you can visually inspect the manual valve deal quickly.
Call me if needed.
Keith
678-4558-2033

Thanks guys. I'll check the valve tonight and also try to round up a pressure gauge to stick on the servo cover. Other than that it'll be coming back out and get dropped off at the shop.

I'll also check the input shaft when I get it out.

It was the input shaft. Had a friend that had a brand new glide/turbo shaft he gave me to use. I just need to pay him for it.

Works like a champ! Brake works perfect. All gears too!

i'll drink to that! glad it was that easy.

cool40 wrote: i'll drink to that! glad it was that easy.

Are you crazzy? Easy is changing jets in one of those carburator thingies.

Actually installing a trans, radiator, etc... in less than 30 minutes WAS EASY!!!!! do that in a door car. We went from no trans, radiator, cooler, coupler, etc... to firing it up in under 30 minutes. This pipe rack stuff is the cat's ass!

Meeeeeeow!

chicken on a stick. a door car is a "fat"pipe rack with a skin.

cool40 wrote:chicken on a stick. a door car is a "fat"pipe rack with a skin.

As in "fat" = HEAVY

Does that mean that a dragster is circumcised?

jbozzelle wrote:Actually installing a trans, radiator, etc... in less than 30 minutes WAS EASY!!!!! do that in a door car. We went from no trans, radiator, cooler, coupler, etc... to firing it up in under 30 minutes. This pipe rack stuff is the cat's ass!

It does have it's advantages....lol

It was good to hear that it was a shaft mismatch. Sure makes for an easier fix!
Keith

QtrWarrior wrote:Right input shaft ??? Some glide's use a "turbo" input shaft . I forget which way it goes, but if you have one type of shaft ( turbo) and the opposite converter (Glide) you get what you got...

Hmmmmmm. This just got me to a thinking .

Was that your situation John?

How would one know upon installation? Does it do or not do something when you put the convertor on the trans?

I bought my glide from a member from the board next door. Suppose to be top notch and everything, have a turbo spline, yada,yada,yada (I'll see soon) . When Blake had my convertor built and traded in the convertor I got with this trans the folks at PTC said the trade in was set up for a turbo spline......but I really don't know if the input shaft is or not. I can tell you when I put my convertor on, I hard a tough time getting the convertor on all the way. I was spinning it and it would click and go on, then click again and go on. I thought, cool I got it. Instructions said a couple of clicks and you'd have it. Well when I tried to match engine to trans... no way... seemed like the convertor wasn't on all the way. I dicked with it for quite some time trying to figure out what was happening. Long story short.......It clicked a 3rd time and really went on. So I'm just wondering..................

You could pull the shaft out of the trans and fit it into the convertor to feel for spline engagement before putting the conv. onto the trans.

Yep. Just like Dave said above. I didnt test the shaft in the converter before I stuck it all together. I always check that but had a brain fart this time I guess!! I had fluid movement since the tbrame solenoid would get pushed out when in gear. Car just wouldn't move!! The pump worked but there was no mechanical connection due to the shaft being a smaller diameter that what the converter wanted.

It's all good now though. I did notice that the engine does idle a bit lower now that the engine is actually turning something!!!

BigDave65 wrote:You could pull the shaft out of the trans and fit it into the convertor to feel for spline engagement before putting the conv. onto the trans.

Yeah......thats what I did after the first time I had to pull it back out to see why things weren't going together like they should be. As I said in my earlier post after the 3rd click she went on all the way....thought she was home after the first 2 clicks....we all live and learn

jbozzelle wrote: I didnt test the shaft in the converter before I stuck it all together.

What a big dummy, everyone knows to check the fit before installation or shipping. hahahahaha