aluminum headed 460 find
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aluminum headed 460 find
yesterday I ran across a 460 in a pawn shop complete minus the intake , ati ballancer , csr water pump , trick flow aluminum heads , ported , I could see it had H beam rods , I will turn over , I can pick it up for a grand ,but I know nothing about it but what I can see , what do you guys think
10SHOTS- Posts : 587
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
For a G I'd grab it.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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dfree383 wrote:For a G I'd grab it.
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69F100- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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X-3 if you don't want it please give me the number and I will see if they will ship it to me, thanks
butterbean- Posts : 676
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
I'll drive to Brookhaven and get it myself if you don't.....
jbozzelle- Posts : 3705
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
Hit the pulse machine now. Like Uncle Jesse would say "What the hell is wrong with you people"!
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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Yessir. The heads alone are worth that even if they need work. Own it.....NOW.
maverick- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
Not that it matters, but does it have a roller cam to, along with roller rockers? Bet it has forged pistons, and if you could see the rods you could tell.
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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couldn't see the Pistons , it has head studs , and looks to be a solid flat tappet cam , it has ford racing valve covers and has 2 gaskets stacked for what ever reason , the tfs heads are the older version , flat on the ends with trick flow engraved , the exhaust floors are not filled , I'd guess it has roller rockers of some type and a possible stud girdle , I will go back Monday and see if I can pull a valve cover
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10SHOTS- Posts : 587
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
If the oil pan is off you should be able to see the botton of the pistons. You can look for casting marks and surface finish and have a good idea what they are. Check the crankshaft also, may be aftermaket forged, but who knows. I don't know your relationship with the seller, but it seems like you could get the price raised if you let on to much about whats in the engine, and I would bet money it has roller rockers and hardened pushrods, which you could tell about the pushrods, they are black almost all of the time and I bet they are 3/8" diameter, without pulling the valve covers, just something to think about. It may not even be a 460, you may want to turn it over and eyeball how far the pistons skirts come down from the cylinder walls if it is not a factory crankshaft also could be a stroker for all you know. Somebody spent alot of money on it from what you describe.
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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https://www.google.com/search?q=forged+pistons+vs+cast+pistons+pictures+from+the+bottom&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qJCYVfCROcuWsAW60oXQBA&ved=0CCAQsAQ
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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https://www.google.com/search?q=ford+557+vs+460+pistons+pictures&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=1JKYVaqFEMvjsAXBmLP4AQ&ved=0CB0QsAQ Skirt lenght is a pretty good give away on a long rod stroker.
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
push rods are 3/8 , motor has the oil pan on , it's complete all but the intake
10SHOTS- Posts : 587
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OK, when you said you could see H beam rods I thought the oilpan was off. I guess you scoped them through the valley drain back holes. I still can't see anyone hanging cast pistons on H beams with all the other good parts you listed. Check The block casting numbers, if its a SCJ or DOVE thick web or even regular DOVE, it just sweetens the even pot more.10SHOTS wrote:yesterday I ran across a 460 in a pawn shop complete minus the intake , ati ballancer , csr water pump , trick flow aluminum heads , ported , I could see it had H beam rods , I will turn over , I can pick it up for a grand ,but I know nothing about it but what I can see , what do you guys think
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
I seen the rods through the holes with a flash light , the one thing that stopped me from buying it was seeing a spot of jb weld beside the intake valve guide and what looked like a new guide , not sure what's up with that
10SHOTS- Posts : 587
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
Sounds like someone needed some crack $$$$$ and decided to either steal someones engine and pawn it or some poor bastard got screwed in a divorce.
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Most if not all H beam rods a free floating pins and most if not all cast pistons are press fit with no lock retainers groves. I doubt anyone would go to the trouble to cut groves for the locks to use H beams with them. The reason for the two head gaskets is probably to get the compression down, or it was a serious nitrous engine and they wanted more quench area.
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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2 valve cover gaskets stacked , not head gaskets
10SHOTS- Posts : 587
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
10SHOTS wrote:2 valve cover gaskets stacked , not head gaskets
W/Ford racing covers that shouldn't be needed.
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
For some reason, the lack of an intake and carb/carbs, makes me imagine a tunnel ram, dual Holleys, and a fogger system for some reason. What kind of oilpan is on it?
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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supervel45 wrote:For some reason, the lack of an intake and carb/carbs, makes me imagine a tunnel ram, dual Holleys, and a fogger system for some reason. What kind of oilpan is on it?
the ports have been ported to cj size , the oil pan is a rear sump , it's flat from the rear sump to the front deep enough for the oil pump , it drops down in the rear for the pickup tube , I'm guessing a truck Pan ?
10SHOTS- Posts : 587
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Ok. I was wondering if it had a high dollar racing oilpan pan to get a better idea of the deal. So I take it is not a stock pan? The lack of a roller cam leaves me scratching my head if it was a semi serious race engine. The missing intake and carb I can see. The double valve cover gaskets, sounds like they needed more clearance for some reason. If you could get a bore scope and pull a spark a plug out to look at the pistons and spy the crank from the valley or oil drain pug, would be nice and the valve train from the breather maybe. Just an idea.
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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https://www.google.com/search?q=bbf+ford+racing+oilpan+pictures&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Uq6YVc64GMLBsAWGn6-gBQ&ved=0CB0QsAQ Can you pick out the oilpan from a mugshot? Then we can see what they cost.
supervel45- Posts : 4498
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https://www.starperf.com/oil-pans/milodon-31365-ford-429-460-marine-gold-iridited-oil-pan/ This one seems like it fits the profile. Reread your post, nevermind this one it's late.
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Re: aluminum headed 460 find
BUY IT now for a G
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