514 ci,

just bought a 514 ci. boss motor with a lenco 4 speed it looks and was told its a x-prostock motor. it has a roller cam-sheetmetal intake 2.5x4.5 headers-a 4 stage drysump system it was in a x prostock thunderbird from the 1980,s it has hollman-moody-parts the guy i bought from got it from his dad past away . he told me it makes a 1056 hp. the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump. i called kasse told him i wanted to get rid of the drysump and someone there told me that maybe my block was a hollman-moody-race block and if it is i only could use the dry sump. i tried to talk to kasse a bunch of times but no suscess how can i find out this information. thanks

Post pictures of the block and any casting numbers that you find on it. That is the only way to be sure.

cesarperez wrote:just bought a 514 ci. boss motor  with a lenco 4 speed  it looks and was told its a x-prostock motor. it has a roller cam-sheetmetal intake 2.5x4.5 headers-a 4 stage drysump system it was in a x prostock thunderbird from the 1980,s it has hollman-moody-parts the guy i bought from got it from his dad past away . he told me it makes a 1056 hp. the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump. i called kasse  told him i wanted to get rid of the drysump and someone there told me that maybe my block was a hollman-moody-race block and if it is i only could use the dry sump. i tried to talk to kasse a bunch of times but no suscess  how can i find out this information. thanks

That is simply not true ... you can always use an external pump wet sump with a "no internal pump provision" block like that.

Why drop the dry sump?

space--iam building a nostalgic prostock maverick with mustang 2 frontend

All my small block turbo guys run an SVO dry sump block with a Peterson external single stage pump. Takes up a lot less room than a dry sump deal plus you can drive a fuel pump off the back of it.

i run mopars dont no much about fords i will have to do some homework and will need help from this forum. thanks

cesarperez wrote:just bought a 514 ci. boss motor  with a lenco 4 speed  it looks and was told its a x-prostock motor. it has a roller cam-sheetmetal intake 2.5x4.5 headers-a 4 stage drysump system it was in a x prostock thunderbird from the 1980,s it has hollman-moody-parts the guy i bought from got it from his dad past away . he told me it makes a 1056 hp. the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump. i called kasse  told him i wanted to get rid of the drysump and someone there told me that maybe my block was a hollman-moody-race block and if it is i only could use the dry sump. i tried to talk to kasse a bunch of times but no suscess  how can i find out this information. thanks

did it have an intake that was all welded like crazy, I know that engine, fact I have a better intake here for it,that was on it, the guy who owned itbefore the guy you bought it off of ,and put it in the tbird is a friend/cust

prob just had 1 4500 dom on it right now?

rmcomprandy wrote:

cesarperez wrote:just bought a 514 ci. boss motor  with a lenco 4 speed  it looks and was told its a x-prostock motor. it has a roller cam-sheetmetal intake 2.5x4.5 headers-a 4 stage drysump system it was in a x prostock thunderbird from the 1980,s it has hollman-moody-parts the guy i bought from got it from his dad past away . he told me it makes a 1056 hp. the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump. i called kasse  told him i wanted to get rid of the drysump and someone there told me that maybe my block was a hollman-moody-race block and if it is i only could use the dry sump. i tried to talk to kasse a bunch of times but no suscess  how can i find out this information. thanks

That is simply not true ... you can always use an external pump wet sump with a "no internal pump provision" block like that.

not if the the pump mount area is cut off which was done a lot back then

BOSS 429 wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

cesarperez wrote:just bought a 514 ci. boss motor  with a lenco 4 speed  it looks and was told its a x-prostock motor. it has a roller cam-sheetmetal intake 2.5x4.5 headers-a 4 stage drysump system it was in a x prostock thunderbird from the 1980,s it has hollman-moody-parts the guy i bought from got it from his dad past away . he told me it makes a 1056 hp. the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump. i called kasse  told him i wanted to get rid of the drysump and someone there told me that maybe my block was a hollman-moody-race block and if it is i only could use the dry sump. i tried to talk to kasse a bunch of times but no suscess  how can i find out this information. thanks

That is simply not true ... you can always use an external pump wet sump with a "no internal pump provision" block like that.

not if the the pump mount area is cut off which was done a lot back then

If it has a dry sump pump on it ... it can certainly accept an EXTERNAL single stage wet sump pump. You don't need any internal oil pump mount on the block in either case.

the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump.

If it has a dry sump pump on it ... it can certainly accept an EXTERNAL single stage wet sump pump. You don't need any internal oil pump mount on the block in either case.[/quote]






right, like a PETERSON WET VAC. Im talking about the internal mounting boss milled off, the op asked about  an inside the pan pump

BOSS 429 wrote:the problem iam having i want to iliminate the drysump system and put an inside pan pump.

If it has a dry sump pump on it ... it can certainly accept an EXTERNAL single stage wet sump pump. You don't need any internal oil pump mount on the block in either case.

right, like a PETERSON WET VAC. Im talking about the internal mounting boss milled off, the op asked about  an inside the pan pump

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I must have misunderstood.  I was commenting on what he said he was told; that he couldn't get rid of the dry sump.
I thought that what he wanted to do and what he was told were two different things.

If I reb right that block has the oil filter boss complete milled off also, been a while since I saw it.

IF its the one I think it is, The guy who use to own it was here today.