Valve spring delima !
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Valve spring delima !
I feel like I have talked with several reputable engine builders about this particular situation that has me confused!
I have a small block stroked to a 408 13.0:1 compression.
8000 RPM
Cam is a solid roller with
Lift
Intake .688 exhausted .672
Duration @.050
Intake 276 exhaust 284
Lobe seperation 107
Installed @103
Some more info :
Lobe lift
Intake .4300 exhaust .4200
Timing events intake op 35 cl 61 Â exhaust op 73 cl 31
1.6 rocker ratio
Spring psi that cam company wants me to run is
250+ on seat
780 open
Installed @ 1.90
What do you guys suggest ?
Thanks Whitefield

I have a small block stroked to a 408 13.0:1 compression.
8000 RPM
Cam is a solid roller with
Lift
Intake .688 exhausted .672
Duration @.050
Intake 276 exhaust 284
Lobe seperation 107
Installed @103
Some more info :
Lobe lift
Intake .4300 exhaust .4200
Timing events intake op 35 cl 61 Â exhaust op 73 cl 31
1.6 rocker ratio
Spring psi that cam company wants me to run is
250+ on seat
780 open
Installed @ 1.90
What do you guys suggest ?
Thanks Whitefield
Last edited by whitefield on October 18th 2017, 1:36 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Add more info !)
whitefield- Posts : 2241
Join date : 2009-08-23
Age : 54
Re: Valve spring delima !
whitefield wrote:I feel like I have talked with several reputable engine builders about this particular situation that has me confused!![]()
I have a small block stroked to a 408 13.0:1 compression.
8000 RPM
Cam is a solid roller with
Lift
Intake .694 exhausted .698
Duration @.050
Intake 268 exhaust 274
Lobe seperation 107
Installed @103
Spring psi that cam company wants me to run is
250+ on seat
780 open
Installed @ 1.90
What do you guys suggest ?
Thanks Whitefield
I don't know much but that seems way to high on the open pressure to me!!!
Mark Miller- Posts : 1742
Join date : 2009-09-01
Re: Valve spring delima !
A lot of it depends on the ramp rates. Some solid rollers will whack a valve open faster than the speed of light!!
Lobes like that need big spring pressures. Other lobes are more forgiving and you can back the pressures off a bit.
Are you experiencing valve float or broken springs??
Lobes like that need big spring pressures. Other lobes are more forgiving and you can back the pressures off a bit.
Are you experiencing valve float or broken springs??
BBFTorino- Posts : 944
Join date : 2015-12-31
Re: Valve spring delima !
you building a race car or a street car?
What's the installed height? Lobe lift? Rocker ratio? Spring rate?
Who's lobes and what numbers?
And just for the record those are not super big springs.
But I do suggest listening to the cam manufacture over soliciting online random suggestions.
What's the installed height? Lobe lift? Rocker ratio? Spring rate?
Who's lobes and what numbers?
And just for the record those are not super big springs.
But I do suggest listening to the cam manufacture over soliciting online random suggestions.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Valve spring delima !
dfree383 wrote:you building a race car or a street car?
What's the installed height? Lobe lift? Rocker ratio? Spring rate?
Who's lobes and what numbers?
And just for the record those are not super big springs.
But I do suggest listening to the cam manufacture over soliciting online random suggestions.
It is a race car
Bullet racing cam
Installed 1.900
1.6 shaft mounted rocker arms
3/8 .080 push rods
Spring rate 644lbs./in.
I will get the rest of the info in a few minutes.
I agree with your last statement, but there are a lot of good experienced people on this forum. I am not on any other forums anymore this one is home. Thanks
P.s. The other reason I was confused is I was getting two different answers from two different people from bullet.
whitefield- Posts : 2241
Join date : 2009-08-23
Age : 54
Re: Valve spring delima !
Personally ... I would use the PAC-1244 valve springs.
The Lunati #74744 is the same spring.
The Lunati #74744 is the same spring.
Re: Valve spring delima !
I added some more info about cam and changed some things I had wrong in first post.
PAC-1225 was the spring they recommended. Thanks Whitefield
PAC-1225 was the spring they recommended. Thanks Whitefield
whitefield- Posts : 2241
Join date : 2009-08-23
Age : 54
Re: Valve spring delima !
whitefield wrote:I added some more info about cam and changed some things I had wrong in first post.
PAC-1225 was the spring they recommended. Thanks Whitefield
A PAC-1225 has 314 pounds force at 1.900" installed height.
765 pounds force at 1.200" height.
A PAC-1244 has 227 pounds force at 1.900" installed height
747 pounds force at 1.200" height.
Re: Valve spring delima !
whitefield wrote:dfree383 wrote:you building a race car or a street car?
What's the installed height? Lobe lift? Rocker ratio? Spring rate?
Who's lobes and what numbers?
And just for the record those are not super big springs.
But I do suggest listening to the cam manufacture over soliciting online random suggestions.
It is a race car
Bullet racing cam
Installed 1.900
1.6 shaft mounted rocker arms
3/8 .080 push rods
Spring rate 644lbs./in.
I will get the rest of the info in a few minutes.
I agree with your last statement, but there are a lot of good experienced people on this forum. I am not on any other forums anymore this one is home. Thanks
P.s. The other reason I was confused is I was getting two different answers from two different people from bullet.
Either Spring Randy suggested would work IMO.
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