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Post  BBFTorino July 16th 2022, 7:30 pm

Has anyone tried the new gas ported rings from Total Seal?
Just wondering about how they compare to the top gapless rings that I run currently.
My compression tests are very good, and very even among all cylinders, so I am satisfied with the ring pack I'm using.
But maybe I will try the gas ported ones in a different build. Just wanted to know if anyone else has any input on them.

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Post  hbstang July 17th 2022, 10:50 am

in regards to the gapless top rings ,can you run vertical gas ports on the top of the piston?
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Post  Mark O'Neal July 18th 2022, 2:27 am

BBFTorino wrote:Has anyone tried the new gas ported rings from Total Seal?
Just wondering about how they compare to the top gapless rings that I run currently.
My compression tests are very good, and very even among all cylinders, so I am satisfied with the ring pack I'm using.
But maybe I will try the gas ported ones in a different build. Just wanted to know if anyone else has any input on them.


Yes, and they work well. But it makes far more sense to pick the correct ring width and gas port the pistons.

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Post  Mark O'Neal July 18th 2022, 2:28 am

hbstang wrote:in regards to the gapless top rings ,can you run vertical gas ports on the top of the piston?


Sure.

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Post  BBFTorino July 22nd 2022, 10:18 pm

But then you have to periodically clean out those gas ports because they get clogged up with carbon.

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Post  Dave De July 23rd 2022, 4:31 pm

BBFTorino wrote:But then you have to periodically clean out those gas ports because they get clogged up with carbon.

Gas porting pistons goes hand in hand with high compression and race gas. Pump gas/low compression builds should stay away from gas porting. E85 will be good with gas porting because its clean. Clogging up the slots on a gas ported piston ring isnt likely to happen. Gas ported rings arent going to be as effective as ported pistons.
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Post  Mark O'Neal July 27th 2022, 8:31 pm

BBFTorino wrote:But then you have to periodically clean out those gas ports because they get clogged up with carbon.

As opposed to replacing what is a relatively costly ring set?

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Post  Dave De July 28th 2022, 11:00 am

My understanding is that gas ports in rings don’t get clogged with carbon. If the holes in the pistons are closed they will only n quadrants leading to unusual ring wear as Mark stated. Another option might be to use larger port holes in the piston. Best option is to use better gas and raise the compression. Pump gas deals are such dirty packages.
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Post  Lem Evans July 28th 2022, 1:52 pm

I haven't seen gas port clogging on sure enough racing engines.

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Post  stanger68 July 29th 2022, 12:30 pm

I was told by one of the piston manufacturers several years back they did not recommend ported pistons for street engines because of the high load on the cylinder walls will prematurely wear out. The horsepower gain is minimal. They would only recommend ported pistons for all out high end race engines that are hunting every single once of power.

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Post  Mark O'Neal August 2nd 2022, 1:42 pm

A few years ago, we didn't have the rings available we have now.

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