Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
Update
Picked up a used Duraspark distributor that look pretty good and feels tight from a local for $20
Received retianers, locks, cups and studs from Lem
Total cost $158
Cam from Cam Research $175
Previous total from 3-15-2010 $1544 add above for a total to date $1897 as of 3-28-2010
Head is dropped of at Blakes (IDT572) to repair the broken stud boss.
Picked up a used Duraspark distributor that look pretty good and feels tight from a local for $20
Received retianers, locks, cups and studs from Lem
Total cost $158
Cam from Cam Research $175
Previous total from 3-15-2010 $1544 add above for a total to date $1897 as of 3-28-2010
Head is dropped of at Blakes (IDT572) to repair the broken stud boss.
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Keep It Up
Keep It Up Dfree383.
I am excited to see what u'll do next.
I am excited to see what u'll do next.
511Fox- Posts : 251
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
Very Cool Dave !! Maybe I missed it ? But how much CR are you gonna shoot for and that new bump stick is what as far as lift and duration ?
I have always liked too see what I guy could put together after a few year in racing or building..Just to see what they could do with spare parts just laying sround ! Cant wait to see what you really get out of this build and what the final Tab will be ?
I have always liked too see what I guy could put together after a few year in racing or building..Just to see what they could do with spare parts just laying sround ! Cant wait to see what you really get out of this build and what the final Tab will be ?
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
It is going to have some Compression in the 12:1+ range, so its not going to be a friendly 87 octane grocery getter, but it will make the power numbers and should have a good broad range also, not a peaky "Race Engine".
Cam Specs are 258/264 @ .050 with .655/.655 Lift on a 108
Anybody care to put this info in Desk top and make some predictions? Guesses anyone?
Cam Specs are 258/264 @ .050 with .655/.655 Lift on a 108
Anybody care to put this info in Desk top and make some predictions? Guesses anyone?
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good idea, I have been thinking of doing a similar build myself. good luck and post some pics if you can.
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One Of These Days
One of these days I want to do the same thing you are doing dfree383.
Good luck and our best wishes to Ya
Good luck and our best wishes to Ya
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
dfree383 wrote:It is going to have some Compression in the 12:1+ range, so its not going to be a friendly 87 octane grocery getter, but it will make the power numbers and should have a good broad range also, not a peaky "Race Engine".
Cam Specs are 258/264 @ .050 with .655/.655 Lift on a 108
Anybody care to put this info in Desk top and make some predictions? Guesses anyone?
When you get a chance, post some air flow numbers for the heads so I can create and air flow file and we'll see what the software I have says. It only missed mine by about 10hp and 15 ftlb. Cool project Dave.
Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
Sure will. These have had some port work, I have to search around and find some stock a429 flows to see how good these ones are.
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there in the head sticky chart
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Waiting for Blake to repair the rocker boss, then it off the the seat and guide machine!!! And the....... Floooooow bench !!!!
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Got the head back From Blake, everything looks good, need to install a heicoil and get the valve job done. May flow them the weekend of the Bash at Mikes.
Add $75 to the Cost to Date $1897 + $75 = $1972
Still Need to Machine the Block, Get some bearings and an Intake.
I have a set of 2" Dyno Headers and an Old 1050 to test out.
I also saw some nice looking tall aluminum Valve Covers on Ebay I may scoop up. the where about $75.
Add $75 to the Cost to Date $1897 + $75 = $1972
Still Need to Machine the Block, Get some bearings and an Intake.
I have a set of 2" Dyno Headers and an Old 1050 to test out.
I also saw some nice looking tall aluminum Valve Covers on Ebay I may scoop up. the where about $75.
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Dave,
Go easy on my next set of heads, now!!
Go easy on my next set of heads, now!!
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Dave use a Keen sert or thinsert they beat the Hell out of Heli coils by a long shot....
Randy
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Dave, any updates on operation Cheapskate ? Or are you working to hard on tryin to get into that house
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
Bringing the heads with me to the bash and hoping to do a valve job and flow them.
Been busy getting the car together, paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers) and working on getting a house........ Have my eye on one but don't have as much down money as I'd like.
Been busy getting the car together, paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers) and working on getting a house........ Have my eye on one but don't have as much down money as I'd like.
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dfree383 wrote:.......paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers)........
Amen.
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
Way cool project Dave
Look forward to the results....
Look forward to the results....
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
dfree383 wrote:Bringing the heads with me to the bash and hoping to do a valve job and flow them.
Been busy getting the car together, paying the IRS (mother F'n robbers) and working on getting a house........ Have my eye on one but don't have as much down money as I'd like.
Well its sounds like for the most part your staying out of trouble anyway ! just thought I'd bring this back up to the top and see how far you had come...Good Luck on the house ! Yeah the IRS is a bitch ! I owed the Vet hospital a few hundered bucks for some service I'am still getting on my foot operation...and them pricks took it out of my wife return !! Chit ! I was hot !
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
kjett wrote:Dave,
Go easy on my next set of heads, now!!
Sorry dude I got dibs on them....................
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That's cold Blake, real cold.....
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Got some Flow Numbers (Left them at home......)
I will say you guys will be supprised at what a good valve job is worth..... Will Post numbers tomorrow.
I will say you guys will be supprised at what a good valve job is worth..... Will Post numbers tomorrow.
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Sounds like there a flowin there dave...cant wait to see where the numbers come in at
Is this going to be a street/ strip build for you dave ? if so whatcha plan on stuffin it in
Is this going to be a street/ strip build for you dave ? if so whatcha plan on stuffin it in
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RapidRuss wrote:Sounds like there a flowin there dave...cant wait to see where the numbers come in at
Is this going to be a street/ strip build for you dave ? if so whatcha plan on stuffin it in
I'm hoping parts of it will find it's way into a little ranger
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
Hears what the heads ended up flowing. As you can see a quality performance valve job is worth its weight in gold, I have not touched the intake ports except for the valve job. The valve job that was on these appeared to have only 2 angles and a sharp ridge, but the portwork itself looked rather nice. Lesson here is you get what you pay for in a valve job cost of the valve job $225
it should also be noted the intake valves on the befor did not have a backcut and the after numbers java a light backcut Nd that is also contributing to the excelent intake flows.
intake before valve job / after valve job.
.100 75 / 75
.200 143 / 169
.300 221 / 260
.400 293 / 319
.500 325 / 360
.600 349 / 384
.650 356 / 388
.700 358 / 391
exhaust before, after number are affected by a big ridge that need to be blended out, I'll post numbers after I get after them as the after numbers with the ridge where about the same as before. I expect improvements into the low 200's after I finish blending them.
.100 55
.200 119
.300 167
.400 186
.500 186
.600 188
.700 190
it should also be noted the intake valves on the befor did not have a backcut and the after numbers java a light backcut Nd that is also contributing to the excelent intake flows.
intake before valve job / after valve job.
.100 75 / 75
.200 143 / 169
.300 221 / 260
.400 293 / 319
.500 325 / 360
.600 349 / 384
.650 356 / 388
.700 358 / 391
exhaust before, after number are affected by a big ridge that need to be blended out, I'll post numbers after I get after them as the after numbers with the ridge where about the same as before. I expect improvements into the low 200's after I finish blending them.
.100 55
.200 119
.300 167
.400 186
.500 186
.600 188
.700 190
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Re: Project Cheap Skate - Revision 1
dfree383 wrote:Hears what the heads ended up flowing. As you can see a quality performance valve job is worth its weight in gold, I have not touched the intake ports except for the valve job. The valve job that was on these appeared to have only 2 angles and a sharp ridge, but the portwork itself looked rather nice. Lesson here is you get what you pay for in a valve job cost of the valve job $225
intake before valve job / after valve job.
.100 75 / 75
.200 143 / 169
.300 221 / 260
.400 293 / 319
.500 325 / 360
.600 349 / 384
.650 356 / 388
.700 358 / 391
exhaust before, after number are affected by a big ridge that need to be blended out, I'll post numbers after I get after them as the after numbers with the ridge where about the same as before. I expect improvements into the low 200's after I finish blending them.
.100 55
.200 119
.300 167
.400 186
.500 186
.600 188
.700 190
Impressive numbers for A429's!
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