cubic inch vs. "the budget"

badnotch wrote:bruno how fast have you been in the 1/8 and 1/4 ? with mph and r you still 3200#,s

ive been 131 in the 1/8 and 163 in the 1/4 and i would say those were at 3150-3175 , with the added bars and myself she weighed 3216 and ran 128 that weekend with one kit

i think if i keep after this tune everything will be fine , but i might just hit a wall with the existing cam and i have already gone over that with Lem and just another reason why i was asking Charlie if there was anything else we could do to the exhaust side of things ...im a poor boy , a hobbiest and just want to be faster then the next guy or atleast faster then the 632 cheby with 3 kits

richter69 wrote:I think instead of just adding bars to the ms cage I have I'll just cut it out and do the cm deal...........

damn thats a lot of work

c.evans wrote:Food for thought. Guys, what is the reaction time like with those turbo cars? Ask yourself how many turbo cars you see actually winning drag races,,,,,as compared to the N/A cars. How consistent are the reaction times of the drivers of turbo cars? There is no doubt they make big power, but then don't they generally suffer from some kind of weight penalty for having a power adder in many classes?

Charlie

i would say at my home track , the fastest guys are the supercharger guys reaction, 1/8, mph the whole deal , we are not talking about bracket racing ..... just heads up

badnotch wrote:thats why the turbo has taken over cubic dollars

bruno you could slap a inverted dome piston in that bad boy change cam put a 91-101 on that bad dog and will make way more power then you could ever imagine at low rpms and wont beat on the block nor parts as hard

you can do that with everything you have now -buy a big stuff 3 sell all your carb stuff

you will make 1500-2000 easy youll never do that n.a or with nos

just giving you options -if you want that bb sound they can make a cam that has that rumble

thats still a ton of money Gerry

bruno wrote:

badnotch wrote:thats why the turbo has taken over cubic dollars

bruno you could slap a inverted dome piston in that bad boy change cam put a 91-101 on that bad dog and will make way more power then you could ever imagine at low rpms and wont beat on the block nor parts as hard

you can do that with everything you have now -buy a big stuff 3 sell all your carb stuff

you will make 1500-2000 easy youll never do that n.a or with nos

just giving you options -if you want that bb sound they can make a cam that has that rumble

thats still a ton of money Gerry

As my Dad told me a LOOOONG time ago....

"Speed costs money, How fast to you want to go ?"

i agree bruno ,but for you to do a max deal aka evans hp ...new crank-rods-pistons- cam-cylinder heads and port work with shaft rockers and titanium valves you are way over $10,000 and you still wont be certain you can make the 1200 hp ----with what you have turbo cam less compression and a big stuff 3 and a 101 you will make more then you could ever imagine and not have to beat on it......

do you remember the falcon with the 605 C heads that went to australia ? 1600 hp on pump gas with 15 #,s of boost double the boost 2600-3000 hp

just saying you can start buying parts and when you have them all gathered up you can tackle the job thats what im doing -gonna run my turd until i have what i need

do get me wrong i love the n/a hp but we dont have any classes down here for that -at least on what i can afford ....im sure what ever you do will be in best interest for what you can afford -what helps me is i can do all the work my self -meaning chassis and turbo kit building ...good luck

best 1/4 pass was 8.663 @ 162.77 w/ a 1.364 60'

best 1/8 mile was the next day 5.443 @ 129.2 w/ a 1.29 60'

cant wait to fine tune this plate and move up to the fogger

those are excellent numbers bruno -keep at it

bruno wrote:

c.evans wrote:Food for thought. Guys, what is the reaction time like with those turbo cars? Ask yourself how many turbo cars you see actually winning drag races,,,,,as compared to the N/A cars. How consistent are the reaction times of the drivers of turbo cars? There is no doubt they make big power, but then don't they generally suffer from some kind of weight penalty for having a power adder in many classes?

Charlie

i would say at my home track , the fastest guys are the supercharger guys reaction, 1/8, mph the whole deal , we are not talking about bracket racing ..... just heads up

Up here in the land of grudge racing the fastest guys are by far the turbo guys. They are fairly consistent too. The N20 guys are right there with them but seem to be leaning on their junk a bit more.

Turbo cars win races but it takes a specialized skillset (read...testing) to understand how to get the car set up and down track. Conventional thinking needs to change. I have been thinking of going with a big cube ( north of 630 ) single turbo set up but my turbo knowledge is next to nothing. Nitrous is my comfort zone and I have figured out how to get the car to work well with it. Usually.....lol

yellowhorse7 wrote:

bruno wrote:

c.evans wrote:Food for thought. Guys, what is the reaction time like with those turbo cars? Ask yourself how many turbo cars you see actually winning drag races,,,,,as compared to the N/A cars. How consistent are the reaction times of the drivers of turbo cars? There is no doubt they make big power, but then don't they generally suffer from some kind of weight penalty for having a power adder in many classes?

Charlie

i would say at my home track , the fastest guys are the supercharger guys reaction, 1/8, mph the whole deal , we are not talking about bracket racing ..... just heads up

Up here in the land of grudge racing the fastest guys are by far the turbo guys. They are fairly consistent too. The N20 guys are right there with them but seem to be leaning on their junk a bit more.

Turbo cars win races but it takes a specialized skillset (read...testing) to understand how to get the car set up and down track. Conventional thinking needs to change. I have been thinking of going with a big cube ( north of 630 ) single turbo set up but my turbo knowledge is next to nothing. Nitrous is my comfort zone and I have figured out how to get the car to work well with it. Usually.....lol

no shit ...i have had this car for ...jeez going on 7 years know and have finally got it to 60' , i have a long road to haul especially since i take the car out twice a year , but the man thing is to stay within your means , have fun ...and keep the wifey happy

QtrWarrior wrote:

bruno wrote:

badnotch wrote:thats why the turbo has taken over cubic dollars

bruno you could slap a inverted dome piston in that bad boy change cam put a 91-101 on that bad dog and will make way more power then you could ever imagine at low rpms and wont beat on the block nor parts as hard

you can do that with everything you have now -buy a big stuff 3 sell all your carb stuff

you will make 1500-2000 easy youll never do that n.a or with nos

just giving you options -if you want that bb sound they can make a cam that has that rumble

thats still a ton of money Gerry

As my Dad told me a LOOOONG time ago....

"Speed costs money, How fast to you want to go ?"

very fast ....... but im going to have to take baby steps with my baby money

badnotch wrote:best 1/4 pass was 8.663 @ 162.77 w/ a 1.364 60'

best 1/8 mile was the next day 5.443 @ 129.2 w/ a 1.29 60'

cant wait to fine tune this plate and move up to the fogger

those are excellent numbers bruno -keep at it

thxs

i figured now since i have the 60' @ a .23 those #'s above will keep on improving

bruno 1.29 sixty is not good bro ive been 1.24 on stock style suspension with a 10.5 mot w this year which still isnt good for the e.t

you have plenty more in that 4 link or ladder bar car dont for get your e.t is in the first 330 feet

badnotch wrote:bruno 1.29 sixty is not good bro ive been 1.24 on stock style suspension with a 10.5 mot w this year which still isnt good for the e.t

you have plenty more in that 4 link or ladder bar car dont for get your e.t is in the first 330 feet

i know its not , this past weekend it ran 1.23 which i was pretty happy with but i know there is more in that car

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