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Post  David Cole September 18th 2011, 11:02 am

I'm still pecking away at it and working on the setup. Just tweaking the suspension and tune a little at a time.

New best last night for the Bird. 5.250@ 132.5 1.165 60' @ 2150' DA 2800 lbs

Lost 2nd round though in the monthly $5K. Cut a .004 light and was gonna be dead on with 2 or 3 based on the '60 and 330'. But then got loose about 450' out. There had a been an oildown a few passes earlier and I think they missed something. It made a move to the center and I thought I was going into the other lane (and get speared by the dragster coming up fast). So, I got out of it and slowed to a 5.30@ 128. Oh well, it was a good tuneup for the IHRA Team Finals in Montgomery in 2 weeks.
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Post  bbf-falcon September 18th 2011, 11:15 am

The Bird is Flying Very Happy Good job david Wink

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Post  512Fairlane September 18th 2011, 11:21 am

Nice work David. That's hauling.
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Post  Curt September 18th 2011, 12:04 pm

David Cole wrote:

New best last night for the Bird. 5.250@ 132.5 1.165 60' @ 2150' DA 2800 lbs




Thats flying, good thing you're a professional driver. affraid



You've done a great job getting that car set up.
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Post  bruno September 18th 2011, 12:54 pm

very nice David cant wait to see her run in the gump in a couple of weeks

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Post  richter69 September 18th 2011, 1:45 pm

barrel valve must "be" set right.............. Razz
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Post  QtrWarrior September 18th 2011, 1:52 pm

Good Job David !
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Post  David Cole September 18th 2011, 2:04 pm

richter69 wrote:barrel valve must "be" set right.............. Razz

yeahhhhhh buddy..... set that there bucket valve using the 'whack it" method Laughing Must be working. Ain't had to buy a screwdriver yet. Very Happy

Green oil doesn't look like a milkshake either.

Side note: learned this. When you step up to a #1 pump and need a large return pill size, the "normal" leakdown numbers no longer work and the new ones don't make "book" sense.
With a 0.5 pump I always ran leakdown in the 24-26% range using anywhere from a 66-98 return pill. With the #1 pump I need a pill in the 112-120 range + a high speed + an extra idle bypass. With that setup if I set the leakdown at 24-26 it stumbles and falls on it's face. Get's hot really quick as well. Way too lean. I set it with the 'whack it" method and it responds as it should with proper heat. Checked it with the leakdown gauge and it shows 41%. I'm thinking the extra large pill size bypasses so much fuel that the BV needs some help at idle.
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Post  crittersf1 September 18th 2011, 4:10 pm

Shooting for the 4's
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Post  knrclark September 18th 2011, 4:19 pm

Way to go David, that is hauling the mail.
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Post  David Willingham September 18th 2011, 6:41 pm

Good job David, glad it's finally getting down there. I would like to come to Steele on a TNT night soon and run the car some more. I ran 8.34 at Huntsville last Friday. I want to get in the 8.20's bone stock before I start tinkering with it. Steele is 400ft lower than Huntsville and with some 40-50* air, it should fly.
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Post  bruno September 18th 2011, 6:45 pm

David Willingham wrote:Good job David, glad it's finally getting down there. I would like to come to Steele on a TNT night soon and run the car some more. I ran 8.34 at Huntsville last Friday. I want to get in the 8.20's bone stock before I start tinkering with it. Steele is 400ft lower than Huntsville and with some 40-50* air, it should fly.

what were you running David ?

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Post  David Willingham September 18th 2011, 6:48 pm

I ran 8.41 at Baileyton, AL and 8.48 at the bash.
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Post  bruno September 18th 2011, 6:49 pm

David Willingham wrote:I ran 8.41 at Baileyton, AL and 8.48 at the bash.

i meant what vehicle ??

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Post  David Willingham September 18th 2011, 6:52 pm

Sorry, 2011 Mustang GT, showroom stock.
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Post  Lem Evans September 18th 2011, 6:59 pm

David Cole wrote:
richter69 wrote:barrel valve must "be" set right.............. Razz

yeahhhhhh buddy..... set that there bucket valve using the 'whack it" method Laughing Must be working. Ain't had to buy a screwdriver yet. Very Happy

Green oil doesn't look like a milkshake either.

Side note: learned this. When you step up to a #1 pump and need a large return pill size, the "normal" leakdown numbers no longer work and the new ones don't make "book" sense.
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Congrats Dave you are doing your usual good job Very Happy
I bet you can trade that leak down gauge for 3 full sets of snap-on screw drivers cheers . In all seriousness.... I've observed some sharp cookies use the "whack it" and other simaliar methods with great results.
Methanol, gas, carb, or injection it is my opinion that if an engine acts unhappy....it is unhappy regardless of what some gauge says.

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Post  bruno September 19th 2011, 8:55 pm

any vids of this car running ?

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Post  David Cole September 19th 2011, 9:17 pm

bruno wrote:any vids of this car running ?

None yet. I'll be at the track in Montgomery Sept 29-Oct 2. You should come out and visit. Bring the video camera and get some shots.
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Post  Wheelie58 September 19th 2011, 11:12 pm

David,
It sounds like you started with a good setup...and just keep steadily creeping up on the ultimate tune up.
Keep the old leakdown tester anyway.....it is good to get things close enough to start the engine, if you ever need to replace a barrel valve or have a new setup. I think you have the idle mixture procedure nailed down.
Nice work!
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Post  dr's wife racing September 20th 2011, 11:14 am

Bring it Montgomery this weekend Wyatt and another HS kid are coming with me they will plenty of photos and footage of you.Just call and have them hold all the trains untill we thru racing. If you can come and get the car there I'll have every else we need even pit help. Would be fun. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
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Post  Moodyblues September 20th 2011, 2:41 pm

Good Job David. Good to see you back in a door car. Very Happy
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Post  David Cole September 21st 2011, 1:31 am

Moodyblues wrote:Good Job David. Good to see you back in a door car. Very Happy

I like this car.....But, I also really liked my dragster. If we had some sort of series around here similar to the Jeg's Super Quick that Phillip, Kristina, etc run I would still have it.

The door car is easier to load/unload at the track, but more of pain to work on. The dragster was easy to work on, but a 45 minute deal to load/unload.
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Post  56Tbird September 21st 2011, 1:57 am

David ,I was really impressed with the way your car went down the track at the bash. It's a super nice car.Real impressive the #'s it is running too!! Congrats cheers
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Post  dr's wife racing September 21st 2011, 12:09 pm

It is a impressive piece. Davids stuff is always top notch and detailed to the hilt. Note to self I have to stop parking by him my junk always looks so bad parked by his.Dan you had ad a chance to help me out but me out so I can't park net to you either.Looks like I'll be out in the woods!
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