Coil Spring Rate
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Coil Spring Rate
Last year I purchased a 69 Mustang roller with an MII front suspension. The car doesnt have much front end travel and will porpoise at the track. I know that the front springs are way too stiff because the old set up had a huge blower and iron heads, now has aluminum heads and a Dommy. I want to stay with the same conventional MII spring set-up and not use the coil over shock deal.
The front end weighs 1500# and the rear weighs 1600#.
The current ride height is okay with the springs at 8.25" long.
I need a front coil spring rate recommendation or do I call Eaton and have them go at it?
A spring part number would be great.
Thanks,
Dave
The front end weighs 1500# and the rear weighs 1600#.
The current ride height is okay with the springs at 8.25" long.
I need a front coil spring rate recommendation or do I call Eaton and have them go at it?
A spring part number would be great.
Thanks,
Dave

Dave De- Posts: 71
Join date: 2011-05-27
Location: Utica, MI
Re: Coil Spring Rate
The porpise problem could be caused by a few different things. Shock settings, front and rear, Does the car hook and stay hooked? Lot of time the porpise feel is the rear tires breaking loose.

BigDave65- Posts: 445
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
The back half is a ladder with 130 rate springs. Single adjustable QA1 shocks at all corners. Front set at 2, rear set at 5. Tried many shock settings and 2-5 seems best. It spins on the release but not badly 3 times in first gear. 60 ft is at 1.38-1.40

Dave De- Posts: 71
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
Dave what engine combo are you running ? Heads and headers in particular.
Thanks
Thanks

John Myrick- Posts: 450
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
John Myrick wrote:Dave what engine combo are you running ? Heads and headers in particular.
Thanks
547 cu-in, SCJ heads ported, Diamond flat tops for 13.5 compression, .685 280 roller, 1050 Dommy, 2.25/4.00 headers. Running E85. The car is a tube chassis without inner fenderwells and 31x13's on the rear.
The car runs 9.65 at 140 but if it would leave better 9.20's are possible.

Dave De- Posts: 71
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
Was gonna ask what headers you are using but with the tube chassis they are custom probably.
Thanks for the info
Thanks for the info

John Myrick- Posts: 450
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
how far are the front springs compressed? total front travel? Is this a ladderbar or 4 link?

richter69- Posts: 8195
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richter69 wrote:how far are the front springs compressed? total front travel? Is this a ladderbar or 4 link?
From the ride height to full extension the springs only travel 1".
Its a ladderbar set-up.

Dave De- Posts: 71
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
Are your springs stock length ?

whitefield- Posts: 554
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
whitefield wrote:Are your springs stock length ?
Dont know, I bought the car as a roller. The lower control arm is almost level.
I may need to just take the springs out and have them measured then order taller springs with a lower rate.

Dave De- Posts: 71
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
Dave De wrote:richter69 wrote:how far are the front springs compressed? total front travel? Is this a ladderbar or 4 link?
From the ride height to full extension the springs only travel 1".
Its a ladderbar set-up.
from ride height how much does the front end compress?
for starters I'd get some good double adjustable shocks on the rear at least.

richter69- Posts: 8195
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richter69 wrote:Dave De wrote:richter69 wrote:how far are the front springs compressed? total front travel? Is this a ladderbar or 4 link?
From the ride height to full extension the springs only travel 1".
Its a ladderbar set-up.
from ride height how much does the front end compress?
for starters I'd get some good double adjustable shocks on the rear at least.
From ride ht. to compression probably 2.5 inches. The shocks are QA1 TS303's and they have 3.5 inches of travel.
I may need to lower the front and buy taller tires to get back some ground clearance.
Am I asking for too much that cant be done with single adjustables?

Dave De- Posts: 71
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
I'd get a softer spring to get it drop and inch or or, you dont need a lot of compression......just make sure you use some sort of rubber bumper to cushion it in csae you have a big wheelstand.
Is the bottom bar on the ladder bar even with the ground, uphill, downhill?
And yes a ladderbar car with good power needs a good da shock on the rear at least.
Is the bottom bar on the ladder bar even with the ground, uphill, downhill?
And yes a ladderbar car with good power needs a good da shock on the rear at least.

richter69- Posts: 8195
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richter69 wrote:Is the bottom bar on the ladder bar even with the ground, uphill, downhill?
Which is the preferred set-up ?

John Myrick- Posts: 450
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Re: Coil Spring Rate
Ladder bar is even with the ground.

Dave De- Posts: 71
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