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Post  powerstrokeace on March 13th 2012, 7:21 pm

Well call me crazy but this is what I'm trying to do. Since I can no longer find and type F or FA fluid I'm going to try this PROD MOD thing. Usig AMSOIL COMPRESSOR OIL affraid ! Yep no friction modifiers what so ever higher flash points than Type F, sound crazy but what the hell. The John deer stuff will tighten the convert and I don't need that right now. They do make this in different SAE grades if you want to tighten the converter if needed. I ran across some form and found this but Now I can remember where. But here this as well

http://www.nealtrans.com/racingtransmissionfluid.html


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Post  richter69 on March 13th 2012, 7:23 pm

Amsoil compressor oil is damn good stuff, overkill maybe, there is nothing wrong with a good dextron/mercon fluid, b eit synthetic or not. Type F is overated IMO...........
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Post  whatbumper on March 13th 2012, 11:00 pm

Amsoil is good stuff where high heat environments exist. I sell a lot of it to turbo guys and blower guys.

For most applications including all nitrous stuff we use 20 weight John Deere hydraulic fluid which is almost the same as Type F or most other trans fluids. (not the regular stuff or the tractor supply stuff)

I sell lots of Amsoil, most of what I sell goes to the ADRL, top sportsman, and outlaw promos down here in Texas and I try to make really good deals for people so they will come back. Email me if you are interested in the Amsoil stuff.

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Post  bruno on March 13th 2012, 11:05 pm

were have you been ?

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Post  whatbumper on March 13th 2012, 11:09 pm

bruno wrote:were have you been ?

Staying back and just reading. I don't want to piss anyone off.

We've been busy around here.

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Post  bruno on March 13th 2012, 11:14 pm

whatbumper wrote:
bruno wrote:were have you been ?

Staying back and just reading. I don't want to piss anyone off.

We've been busy around here.

well that sucks , i enjoyed reading your threads ....... if you need anything just let me know

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Post  darren on March 13th 2012, 11:46 pm

What do you mean when you say ,it tightens the convertor up
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Post  powerstrokeace on March 13th 2012, 11:48 pm

darren wrote:What do you mean when you say ,it tightens the convertor up

Lowers your stall speed.

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Post  richter69 on March 14th 2012, 8:30 am

whatbumper wrote:
bruno wrote:were have you been ?

Staying back and just reading. I don't want to piss anyone off.

We've been busy around here.


gee whiz, wonder who it was that pissed you off Rolling Eyes ................anyhoo, its good to see you back...........
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Post  Oldani on March 15th 2012, 5:04 pm

One thing to remember is if you use a heavier viscosity fluid make sure whatever trans you use is equipped with a screen style filter as the Dacron filters often restrict flow with those fluids. I prefer Mobil 1, Amsoil, or RP synthetics. The compressor oil works well for high-load cars such as those that spool up turbos on the line. It's also beneficial with a higher flash point so when you blow it apart it's less likely to catch fire, lol.
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Post  richter69 on March 15th 2012, 5:29 pm

for the record my Oldani built stock case glide has been flawless now for over 4 seasons, has had the fluid changed only to run the hygard, but went back to the Schaeffer syn atf...................and I've been beatin the snot out of it.
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Post  69F100 on March 15th 2012, 8:44 pm

powerstrokeace wrote:Well call me crazy but this is what I'm trying to do. Since I can no longer find and type F or FA fluid I'm going to try this PROD MOD thing. Usig AMSOIL COMPRESSOR OIL affraid ! Yep no friction modifiers what so ever higher flash points than Type F, sound crazy but what the hell. The John deer stuff will tighten the convert and I don't need that right now. They do make this in different SAE grades if you want to tighten the converter if needed. I ran across some form and found this but Now I can remember where. But here this as well

http://www.nealtrans.com/racingtransmissionfluid.html


OK LET THE ABUSE BEGIN... Shocked

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Post  bruno on March 15th 2012, 9:33 pm

richter69 wrote:for the record my Oldani built stock case glide has been flawless now for over 4 seasons, has had the fluid changed only to run the hygard, but went back to the Schaeffer syn atf...................and I've been beatin the snot out of it.

x2 , i believe i got mine done right about the same time ....no issues

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Post  Beast on March 20th 2012, 3:45 pm

richter69 wrote:for the record my Oldani built stock case glide has been flawless now for over 4 seasons, has had the fluid changed only to run the hygard, but went back to the Schaeffer syn atf...................and I've been beatin the snot out of it.

Why did you go away from the hygard?
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Post  richter69 on March 20th 2012, 5:25 pm

need the extra rpm so the new intake will work better.

I've noticed on the datalogger the trans takes longer to shift with the hygard, on the hose thats approx 300 rpm.
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Post  Frank Merkl on March 20th 2012, 6:12 pm

and with hygard the transbrake release is slower
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Post  kjett on March 21st 2012, 2:26 pm

Frank Merkl wrote:and with hygard the transbrake release is slower
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And I don't want that happening! Very Happy
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Post  the Coug on March 21st 2012, 4:20 pm

Ace if you need some Type F I think I still have a case on the shelf it is probably 10 years old but still should be good... I don't use it so you need it let me know....
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Post  powerstrokeace on March 21st 2012, 8:01 pm

Thanks for the offer but I have purchased a case of the AMSOIL compressor oil and will be giving that a try.

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Post  whatbumper on March 21st 2012, 9:47 pm

powerstrokeace wrote:Thanks for the offer but I have purchased a case of the AMSOIL compressor oil and will be giving that a try.

Ace

congrats on the purchase of a great oil. Very Happy

I just hope next time you give me a call first for Amsoil products. Sad

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Post  466cj on March 21st 2012, 11:52 pm

richter69 wrote:there is nothing wrong with a good dextron/mercon fluid, b eit synthetic or not. Type F is overated IMO...........

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Post  CDMBill on May 13th 2012, 1:51 am

I had a similar dleayed shift issue with a Lentech Strip Terminator AOD with Hy-Guard and was told by Len to go to B7M Trick Shift Type F which is still out there amzingly enough. Its worked well for several years but now I'm doing a rebuild. Other suggestions have been Swepco and the new ATI Super F. Has naybody run these succesfully?

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Post  valleydawg on May 15th 2012, 10:07 am

I have ran a Keith Neal glide for a few years now. Since he recommended it I have used the Amsoil compressor oil with no issues.
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Post  whitefield on May 15th 2012, 10:11 am

valleydawg wrote:I have ran a Keith Neal glide for a few years now. Since he recommended it I have used the Amsoil compressor oil with no issues.

What weight compressor oil are you running ?
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Post  whatbumper on May 15th 2012, 10:29 am

most run 20 weight which is virtually the same as regular trans fluid. it's not the viscosity that is the selling point but rather the other chemical properties. kind of like this "magical" john deere hy-guard. we have run it for years but use the low viscosity (20w). doesnt tighten squat up but it's cheaper for us to buy that regular atf due to the fact that we get it in drums. now before all the "experts" chime in, the regular hy-guard is a little thicker and will effect the converter a little depending on the size of the converter, which pump is in it, what transmission and valve body you have and many other variables.

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