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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 9:00 am

I was changing oil on my car and found 1/2 of a broken hardened washer it looks like. I think its a lock washer but its flat. Its .460 OD .312 id and .100 thick. I am think its an oil pump pick up washer. I thought it was a valve lock its not. Any ideas guys.

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Post  dfree383 April 11th 2012, 9:12 am

Any thing going on with your oil pressure?

You have access to a scope to take a look thru the drain plug or other opening?
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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 9:15 am

No problem with oil pressure. I know someone who has one I might be able to borrow. The culprit was hooked to a magnet on the oil pan plug.



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Post  dfree383 April 11th 2012, 9:21 am

What Lifters? Could it be off a link bar?

I'd pull the Valve Covers and have a look up top too.
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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 9:34 am

I pulled the rocker covers and swapped out all the keepers to see if it could be one but its not. I am pulling the intake later this week. They are comp roller lifters. No desire to pull an engine right now.
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Post  dfree383 April 11th 2012, 9:39 am

Post a Pic of the Piece next to a rule / tape, maybe we can figure it out.
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Post  bbf-falcon April 11th 2012, 10:08 am

I thought we had this thing figured out Tore. I still have the pic's so I will look at my link bars.

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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 10:18 am

I called you and was going to tell you Rick I left a message. I thought it was a lock but swapped them out last night. If you can post those pictures I would appreciate it. I don't have any here.


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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 10:39 am

I went out and looked at an oil pump I have here and it looks like it could be off the Pick up. Thas the only thing thats 5/16 id in the bottom of the engine I can think of.


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Post  bbf-falcon April 11th 2012, 10:54 am

Here is the pic's

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Post  bruno April 11th 2012, 11:02 am

that 2nd pic looked like it had some heat in that piece

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Post  dfree383 April 11th 2012, 11:05 am

Thats not a washer...

I'd Check the Lifters and rocker arms out real close.
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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 11:11 am

That is a hardened pc, I won't get the intake off till tomorrow night. I also cut the oil filter apart looking for remanants but that had the normal crap in it,nos ign of brokem pcs.

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Post  Barney April 11th 2012, 11:12 am

dfree383 wrote:Thats not a washer...

I'd Check the Lifters and rocker arms out real close.
x2 looks like a fulcrum retainer, if thats what its called...
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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 12:24 pm

I have a bore scope coming tomorrow to borrow. Anybody know what size reatiner clip it is on an oil pump drive shaft.

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Post  dfree383 April 11th 2012, 12:55 pm

Tore wrote:I have a bore scope coming tomorrow to borrow. Anybody know what size reatiner clip it is on an oil pump drive shaft.

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Those are typicaly reversedl star shaped flat metal and thin
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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 1:13 pm

Well rules that out.
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Post  maverick532 April 11th 2012, 1:47 pm

as mentioned prior inspect your lifters . pics of pieces look like a part of lifter down by the axle .

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Post  Tore April 11th 2012, 1:53 pm

I have some of the same lifters here at work I can't see where anything like that would come them.
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Post  maverick532 April 11th 2012, 2:08 pm

just saying from past experiance ck your lifters , I tore up my last engine due to a lifter , I would definetly find out where it came from though .

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Post  bbf-falcon April 11th 2012, 11:00 pm

Could be the small lock washer that comes w/stud and nut from ARP for the oil pump stud. Its about that size also.

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Post  Tore April 12th 2012, 7:01 am

Hope to pull the intake tonight and check the lifters. I borrowed a bore scope from a guy who fixes my machines at work. Will know by Saturday if I pull the engine.


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Post  bbf-falcon April 12th 2012, 11:38 am

Good luck Tore:)

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Post  jbozzelle April 12th 2012, 12:00 pm

Is that a piece of a stop collar on the bottom of the dizzy housing?

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Post  dfree383 April 12th 2012, 12:09 pm

jbozzelle wrote:Is that a piece of a stop collar on the bottom of the dizzy housing?

Thats a damn good guess
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