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Post  bruno January 29th 2010, 8:40 am

what do you think DILLIGAS ?
http://www.racetec.cc/shope/

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Post  cool40 January 29th 2010, 10:03 pm

good read
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Post  Lem Evans January 29th 2010, 10:14 pm

bruno wrote:what do you think DILLIGAS ?
http://www.racetec.cc/shope/
What do you think ? Looks like you are giving Dill a test .

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Post  richter69 January 29th 2010, 11:09 pm

Dave dont need no test.............. Cool
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE January 29th 2010, 11:15 pm

I have read some of Mr Shope's stuff over on the Hardcore site from time to time.

I think in one aspect you could make a comparison between him & Dave Morgan. When writing down their explainations of suspension theroy for a mass audence to read, they both tend to over explain the math to some degree. Granted Shope probably does this more than Morgan as I have heard (but don't know for sure) that in Morgan's seminars he is more simple & "down to earth" with his explanations vs how he wrote his "Door Slammer" book.

And it seems to me (just my opinion) that they both seem to look at suspension theory in a more rigid mechanical heavily geometrical and/or math formula sense to where if you do "A + B" it always equals "C". But thinking about suspension theory from a purely mechanical standpoint (as if the suspension moved on it's own, without any outside influence) isn't the whole picture. An important factor that some of that geometry & math leaves out is the variable of engine torque. Sure thinking about math/geometry based suspension theory is fine....to a point (it's great for bench racing). But it can't accurately factor in the effect engine torque has making/forcing the suspension to move.

In the end actually going to the track is the only way to know for sure what effect any given suspension setting is ACTUALLY going to have in combination with the rest of the combo, and what's really going to happen.
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Post  Lem Evans January 29th 2010, 11:25 pm

Cool Exclamation Looks like Dill is well read alien

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Post  richter69 January 29th 2010, 11:30 pm

He passed the test............ bounce
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE January 29th 2010, 11:52 pm

Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers
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Post  Lem Evans January 30th 2010, 12:00 am

B & G ...a place to take a dump !

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Post  richter69 January 30th 2010, 12:03 am

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers


We had it, I like to take dumps............... Twisted Evil
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Post  bruno January 30th 2010, 11:53 am

Dave knows i wasnt trying to test him on anything ........ just wanted his opinion on the read ...thats all Wink

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Post  Lem Evans January 30th 2010, 12:12 pm

richter69 wrote:
DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers


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Post  dfree383 January 30th 2010, 8:58 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:
DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers


We had it, I like to take dumps............... Twisted Evil
That's a fact Laughing

kinda like "an enenima for the brain" ?????
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Post  DILLIGASDAVE January 30th 2010, 9:18 pm

Nick, don't get the mistaken idea that I'm saying don't read Shope's/Morgan's stuff, nothing could be farther from the truth. All I'm saying is the geometry/physics side of suspension theory isn't the whole picture.

By all means do read their stuff. Just don't do these gentlemen a disservice like some do an skim a limited amount of what they have wrote & decide you have read enough. You have to really read it.
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Post  Cactus Jack January 30th 2010, 10:02 pm

Lem Evans wrote:B & G ...a place to take a dump !

A place for Nick to take a dump on one guy in particular! By accident, of course....
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