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Post  bruno on Fri 29 Jan - 7:40

what do you think DILLIGAS ?
http://www.racetec.cc/shope/

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  cool40 on Fri 29 Jan - 21:03

good read

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  Lem Evans on Fri 29 Jan - 21:14

bruno wrote:what do you think DILLIGAS ?
http://www.racetec.cc/shope/

What do you think ? Looks like you are giving Dill a test .

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  richter69 on Fri 29 Jan - 22:09

Dave dont need no test.............. Cool

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  DILLIGASDAVE on Fri 29 Jan - 22:15

I have read some of Mr Shope's stuff over on the Hardcore site from time to time.

I think in one aspect you could make a comparison between him & Dave Morgan. When writing down their explainations of suspension theroy for a mass audence to read, they both tend to over explain the math to some degree. Granted Shope probably does this more than Morgan as I have heard (but don't know for sure) that in Morgan's seminars he is more simple & "down to earth" with his explanations vs how he wrote his "Door Slammer" book.

And it seems to me (just my opinion) that they both seem to look at suspension theory in a more rigid mechanical heavily geometrical and/or math formula sense to where if you do "A + B" it always equals "C". But thinking about suspension theory from a purely mechanical standpoint (as if the suspension moved on it's own, without any outside influence) isn't the whole picture. An important factor that some of that geometry & math leaves out is the variable of engine torque. Sure thinking about math/geometry based suspension theory is fine....to a point (it's great for bench racing). But it can't accurately factor in the effect engine torque has making/forcing the suspension to move.

In the end actually going to the track is the only way to know for sure what effect any given suspension setting is ACTUALLY going to have in combination with the rest of the combo, and what's really going to happen.

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  Lem Evans on Fri 29 Jan - 22:25

Cool Exclamation Looks like Dill is well read alien

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  richter69 on Fri 29 Jan - 22:30

He passed the test............ bounce

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  DILLIGASDAVE on Fri 29 Jan - 22:52

Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  Lem Evans on Fri 29 Jan - 23:00

B & G ...a place to take a dump !

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  richter69 on Fri 29 Jan - 23:03

DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers



We had it, I like to take dumps............... Twisted Evil

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  bruno on Sat 30 Jan - 10:53

Dave knows i wasnt trying to test him on anything ........ just wanted his opinion on the read ...thats all Wink

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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  Lem Evans on Sat 30 Jan - 11:12

richter69 wrote:
DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers



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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  dfree383 on Sat 30 Jan - 19:58

Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:
DILLIGASDAVE wrote:Now can Nick pass the test of starting a Bar and Grill like "hidden" board only members can see (you know, say something like yellowbullet started) for some not so "politically correct" content to liven things up a little. drunken drunken Twisted Evil cheers



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Re: interesting suspension read

Post  DILLIGASDAVE on Sat 30 Jan - 20:18

Nick, don't get the mistaken idea that I'm saying don't read Shope's/Morgan's stuff, nothing could be farther from the truth. All I'm saying is the geometry/physics side of suspension theory isn't the whole picture.

By all means do read their stuff. Just don't do these gentlemen a disservice like some do an skim a limited amount of what they have wrote & decide you have read enough. You have to really read it.

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Post  Cactus Jack on Sat 30 Jan - 21:02

Lem Evans wrote:B & G ...a place to take a dump !


A place for Nick to take a dump on one guy in particular! By accident, of course....

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