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Post  c.evans on March 19th 2010, 11:39 am

Guys,

I've been doing some checking lately, with an very accurate and zeroed 1000 lb scale, of the BB Ford engines we've had going on the dyno lately. All engines were weighed without flexplate or starter, but with oil, carb and etc . In other words I've made sure that the comparisons are valid.

1. Bobby's engine. DOVE-A block, 4.442" X 4.500" = 559 CID, Milodon splayed 4 bolt main caps, P-51 heads, Victor, single 1250 QFX carb, Mezeire electric water pump. 600 lbs.

2. Mike's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.420" X 4.300" (I think? Lem?), P-51 heads, Victor, single QFT carb, water pump. 641 lbs.

3. Todd's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.600" X 4.500"= 598 CID, TFS A-460 heads, TFS 2 X 4 tunnel ram manifold, two QFT 1150 carbs, Mezeire electric water pump, Moroso vacuum pump, dry sump pump and lines, Peterson dry sump tank, & nitrous plumbing. 735 lbs.

4. Jeff's engine. DOVE-A block, 4.440 X 4.500"= 557 CID, short fill HardBlok, Milodon splayed 4 bolt main caps, TFS A-460 heads, TFS single four intake manifold, alum. mechanical water pump, single QFT carb. 627 lbs.

I hope this is helpful,

Charlie Evans


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Post  bruno on March 19th 2010, 11:44 am

great info Charlie
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Post  bbf-falcon on March 19th 2010, 11:46 am

Very interesting Charlie. What is the weight diff between a hard blocked (Bare)DoveA w/billet 4 bolt main caps. And a A460 (Bare) w/same bore?

OR What is the weight of a A460 bare block?


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Post  Curt on March 19th 2010, 11:46 am

Looks like I should come in around 735 eh!
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Post  racnrick on March 19th 2010, 12:00 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:Very interesting Charlie. What is the weight diff between a hard blocked (Bare)DoveA w/billet 4 bolt main caps. And a A460 (Bare) w/same bore?

OR What is the weight of a A460 bare block?

Rick,
My old Dove block filled to the water pump holes, but with only 2 bolt mains and bored to 4.440 weighed 234.
My new A-460 block weighs 290 as it came from Lem, have not had it bored yet to see what the weight difference would be. Hopefully in a few weeks I will know the difference in weight.

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Post  jts557 on March 19th 2010, 12:06 pm

I know the intake from trick flow is a heavy piece .esp when you put a hat on it.
I always wondered about weight UMMMM seems about the same as bbc Razz
I get so sick of hearing that thing has to be heavy. And then they change a little
when you tell them you have over 500 cid in a stock block without grinding on it Shocked

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Post  maverick on March 19th 2010, 12:53 pm

At last.....A guy who ain't just guessing. That's really useful info as I build my car. Thanks, Charlie. Cool
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Post  bruno on March 19th 2010, 12:53 pm

Block Weights

2-bolt D9TE-AB 4.36 bore = 229 lbs

2-bolt D9TE-A2 4.39 bore = 221 lbs

2-bolt C8VE 4.36 bore = 206 lbs

2-bolt C9VE-B 4.36 bore = 210 lbs

2-bolt D1VE-A2B 4.36 bore = 223 lbs

2-bolt D1VE-A2B 4.39 bore filled = 245 lbs

2-bolt D0VE 4.36 bore = 219 lbs

2-bolt D0VE 4.440 bore = 204 lbs

4-bolt D0VE-A block = 221 lbs

A460 block, factory rough undersize bore = 302 lbs

A460 block, 4.473" bore, roller cam brgs = 265 lbs

A460 block, 4.625" bore, roller cam brgs, unfilled with caps = 255 lbs

A460 block, 4.634" bore, roller cam brgs, filled to deck with caps = 268 lbs
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Post  maverick on March 19th 2010, 1:00 pm

Nice, Nick. Much obliged. Cool
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Post  Curt on March 19th 2010, 1:00 pm

c.evans wrote:Guys,

I've been doing some checking lately, with an very accurate and zeroed 1000 lb scale, of the BB Ford engines we've had going on the dyno lately.

and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, no dyno numbers????? Suspect
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Post  c.evans on March 19th 2010, 3:47 pm

Yes, we've got tons of dyno numbers, Very Happy but that wasn't the subject of this thread. Furthermore, there are some dyno numbers that we keep to ourselves, Cool or only share with our good customers like you. Laughing

I'll start another thread sometime soon and share some numbers.

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Post  Curt on March 19th 2010, 3:57 pm

You da man Uncle Charlie!
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Post  511Fox on March 19th 2010, 6:27 pm

Good stuff to know. Very Happy study

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Post  deliveredfast on March 19th 2010, 9:40 pm

Nobody has #s on IDT blocks?
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Post  Nevs on March 19th 2010, 9:41 pm

deliveredfast wrote:Nobody has #s on IDT blocks?

I would think Chuck Stevens might.
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Post  richter69 on March 19th 2010, 9:42 pm

We should make this thread a sticky.................. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
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Post  deliveredfast on March 19th 2010, 9:44 pm

richter69 wrote:We should make this thread a sticky.................. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Should maybe include all the bbf blocks in if you do Very Happy But good idea sir Razz
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Post  138 on March 19th 2010, 10:08 pm

we get some pictures posted.. I'll personally make it sticky Shocked

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Post  bbf-falcon on March 19th 2010, 10:56 pm

138 wrote:we get some pictures posted.. I'll personally make it sticky Shocked

HeHe,that pic w/reg. bracket is now sticky No Laughing

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Post  dfree383 on March 20th 2010, 2:31 am

Awsome post Charlie Thanks for taking the time
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Post  511Fox on March 20th 2010, 9:08 am

This is the Greatest Website ever.

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Post  665 falcon on March 20th 2010, 10:04 am

Very interesting thank you Cool Cool .
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Post  Lem Evans on March 20th 2010, 10:24 am

"2. Mike's engine. FRPP SVO block, 4.530" X 4.300" (I think? Lem?), P-51 heads, Victor, single QFT carb, water pump. 641 lbs."
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If you are refering to Mike M's engine...the bore is but 4.420". So it didn't have much wt. bored out of it.
I really don't know were the 300# + wts. for the as delivered A460 blocks comes from. We got two in tuesday, both blocks including their crates and the pallet they both were straped to were less than 600#. I suspect the 290# that Rick qouted is closer to correct.

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Post  c.evans on March 20th 2010, 2:24 pm

Okay Lem, thanks for the correction. I'll go back and change the bore size in the original post.

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Post  brianhaeckel on March 22nd 2010, 1:38 am

IDT Premier with 4.650 bore = 254#

Older A460 with 4.650 bore and filled to bottom of water pump holes = 265#

A460 block with TFS A460 heads, TFS cast tunnel ram, CSR water pump, Peterson Wide Vac pump, Danny Bee belt drive, steel oil pan, complete engine(4.65x4.15) less carbs was 655#

Weighed all of these a couple years ago on one of my chassis scales. Hope this helps

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