Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

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Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Big block fox 339 on Thu May 27, 2010 6:23 pm

My car was just idleing then went dead just pulled the timing cover and the pin is broke
it's a lunati 61604 with 10 passes on the motor

specs


Motor
545''
d1ve block
scat 4.5'' cast crank
scat 6.7'' rods
probe 22cc forged pistons
10.8to1 cr
lunati 61604 hyd ft cam
lunati voodoo roller rocker
lunati lifter
lunati push rods
lunati springs
dove heads 2.25 int/1.75 ex some port work no clue on flow
victor intake
QFT 950 e85 carb
msd dist
holley 110 gph fuel pump
Tranny
c-6 man rev valve body
tci 3400 stall

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Big block fox 339 on Thu May 27, 2010 6:25 pm

Should I fix this cam or try another one ?
It's in a 50/50 street strip fox body
3:73 gears

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Nevs on Thu May 27, 2010 6:27 pm

How does everything else look? It's pretty common to double pin the timing gear to the camshaft. Any bent valves?

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  jones on Thu May 27, 2010 6:38 pm

Well, that stinks.

Just depends on what you want to do. There is a couple of people you can try if you are interested in a new camshaft. If you get a new camshaft you will have to get new lifters. If you decide to repin the current camshaft keep track with what lifters went were.

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Post  dfree383 on Thu May 27, 2010 6:47 pm

If the nose of the cam isn't messed up fix it and double pin it, plus you need to figure out why it happened

bolt to long? Snout to long and not tightening up? To thin of washer? Improper tightening?

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Big block fox 339 on Thu May 27, 2010 6:49 pm

I have not checked the valves yet do I have to pull the heads to check them ??

I'm thinking about going with the c460 cam and lifters
I would rather get a new one than chance it
it messed up the timing sprocket so I gotta get a new timing set what kind should I get ?

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Post  Big block fox 339 on Thu May 27, 2010 6:51 pm

dfree383 wrote:If the nose of the cam isn't messed up fix it and double pin it, plus you need to figure out why it happened

bolt to long? Snout to long and not tightening up? To thin of washer? Imprope
r tightening?


The bolt was tight everthing seems fine my motor guy built it

how do you double pin it ??


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Post  DJOHAGIN on Thu May 27, 2010 7:33 pm

LOL.

I guess we have to double pin hydraulic flat tappet cams now?

While your bolt may have been "tight", the head of the bolt was not tight against the washer to the gear. You need to re-examine your set-up.

You do not need to double pin it for your application.

Hope that helps,

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Big block fox 339 on Thu May 27, 2010 7:37 pm

Shorter bolt or thicker washer? sorry for the newb questions

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Nevs on Thu May 27, 2010 7:42 pm

DJOHAGIN wrote:LOL.

I guess we have to double pin hydraulic flat tappet cams now?

While your bolt may have been "tight", the head of the bolt was not tight against the washer to the gear. You need to re-examine your set-up.

You do not need to double pin it for your application.

Hope that helps,

Dave
Not sure if you are directing this statement at me or not, Dave, but I never stated he had to double pin a hydraulic camshaft. Having said that, it is a common deal on roller cams with a lot of spring pressure as you know. Certainly wouldn't hurt to do it on a hydraulic cam if one was so inclined now would it???

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Post  DJOHAGIN on Thu May 27, 2010 7:50 pm

Nevs wrote:
DJOHAGIN wrote:LOL.

I guess we have to double pin hydraulic flat tappet cams now?

While your bolt may have been "tight", the head of the bolt was not tight against the washer to the gear. You need to re-examine your set-up.

You do not need to double pin it for your application.

Hope that helps,

Dave
Not sure if you are directing this statement at me or not, Dave, but I never stated he had to double pin a hydraulic camshaft. Having said that, it is a common deal on roller cams with a lot of spring pressure as you know. Certainly wouldn't hurt to do it on a hydraulic cam if one was so inclined now would it???


No it was not directed at you.

It was directed at Dfree. J/K, or maybe not. LOL.

I find it better to solve the problem than to add a band-aid. His set-up is wrong, hence the comment to re-examine his set-up.

The pins are there for indexing, not full torque transfer.

Hope that helps,

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Post  Nevs on Thu May 27, 2010 8:05 pm

The pins are there for indexing, not full torque transfer.


I'm well aware of their purpose Dave, just pointing out it's a common addition to a BBF build. I don't disagree, there appears to be an issue with either the bolt, washer or both. I don't agree however that double pinning is a "band-aid" fix. If that were the case, no one would be doing it in my opinion. Try building an 815" hemi with 1.200" of valve lift and see how that single pin holds up!

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Post  richter69 on Thu May 27, 2010 9:00 pm

Double pin wont hurt, but I have run a lot more aggressive flat tappet stuff with one pin and zero failures. I double pin all my roller units just for piece of mind, but in this case the pin is not what failed but rather the result of the gear not retained properly.

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  Big block fox 339 on Thu May 27, 2010 9:04 pm

What's the best way to fix it??

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Re: Well my Cam pin broke what kind should I get now??

Post  cool40 on Thu May 27, 2010 9:13 pm

i know it could'a bit me in the ass but i have only pinned one of my roller cams and it was the small one Laughing both the others,over .800 lift were run with one pin.i had a small solid "crane"cam back in the day that had both the pin and the end of the cam break off,hard to tell whitch came first! Laughing i know it sucks to have it happen,just be sure you know WHY it did and you will never foreget it. Cool

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