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Post  cool40 October 14th 2010, 10:32 pm

i'm putting a ron's injection on with ex514 intake and need an idea where to start at.this setup was on a 427bbx and has 40's in the nozzles.what would be a safe place to start at? 526 A460's 14.1 Very Happy
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Post  richter69 October 14th 2010, 10:34 pm

what pump and color barrel valve? 40's gonna be way too big I can tell ya right now....................

The Ron's stuff is good, but you need to get the nozzels flowed........and not by Ron's lol.
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Post  cool40 October 14th 2010, 10:40 pm

i think it's purple,and the pump looks a lot like an enderle 80a but it's a rons pump.the guy it came from said rons dont make that type pump anymore.
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Post  richter69 October 14th 2010, 10:42 pm

Sounds like some old stuff, that is the smaller old style BV, pump should have a number on it.
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Post  cool40 October 14th 2010, 10:49 pm

it ran good on the chicken on a stick Laughing it was on.i'll look and see what it's got on it.thanks
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Post  richter69 October 14th 2010, 10:51 pm

I got some 38's that are balanced pretty good that would work better. What size throttle body?
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Post  cool40 October 14th 2010, 11:00 pm

4.100 and the pump has 0 1/2 on it.
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Post  richter69 October 14th 2010, 11:03 pm

should work, gimme a holla when you get ready to set it up, your welcome to try these nozzels as well.........

you got a good assortment of pills?
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Post  cool40 October 14th 2010, 11:20 pm

richter69 wrote:should work, gimme a holla when you get ready to set it up, your welcome to try these nozzels as well.........

you got a good assortment of pills?
the guys i got it from have 3 chicken sticks and all run rons stuff and are helpen me out with it.i just didnt know how much the tune would be off. i got started on the intake today and should have it ready to go soon,it needed some tlc to fit my heads after the .100 cutten Laughing glad i have a mill.the ex514 has a lot more plenum than the old A460,hope it helps.thanks for the offer,i'll yell if they dont have what i need. Very Happy
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Post  David Cole October 14th 2010, 11:23 pm

I agree the 40's will be too big. I ran 40's with my A headed 588 and the same pump, but the pump was at the limit and it showed by needing a 66 pill. Going to upgrade to a #1 pump for the new 598.

The 38's will be good to start with about an 80 pill and 25-26% leakdown. Should be a good safe starting point.
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Post  cool40 October 14th 2010, 11:33 pm

David Cole wrote:I agree the 40's will be too big. I ran 40's with my A headed 588 and the same pump, but the pump was at the limit and it showed by needing a 66 pill. Going to upgrade to a #1 pump for the new 598.

The 38's will be good to start with about an 80 pill and 25-26% leakdown. Should be a good safe starting point.
thanks,hows the 598 bird comen along?
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Post  David Cole October 14th 2010, 11:46 pm

cool40 wrote:Tanks,hows the 598 bird comen along?

It's been at the chassis shop a little south of you (Athens, Al) for a little over 3 weeks now. Chassis guy got behind, but he was straight up with me a didn't try to come up with any excuses, so I can deal with it. Just waiting on it for headers, motor plate tabs and a handful of other things. As soon as I get it back, the block goes to the machine shop. Hope to get it back in the next couple of weeks.
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Post  cool40 October 15th 2010, 12:09 am

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cool40 wrote:Tanks,hows the 598 bird comen along?

It's been at the chassis shop a little south of you (Athens, Al) for a little over 3 weeks now. Chassis guy got behind, but he was straight up with me a didn't try to come up with any excuses, so I can deal with it. Just waiting on it for headers, motor plate tabs and a handful of other things. As soon as I get it back, the block goes to the machine shop. Hope to get it back in the next couple of weeks.
yep,Athens is just down the road from me.i'd like to see your ride when it's done.where do you run at? Smile i go to huntsville sometimes but it's been a while,us43 in ethridge has been real good this year.
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Post  cool40 October 17th 2010, 9:49 pm

i got it all on and fired tonight! Very Happy if it run's like it sounds this'll be fun!that big one barrel is sure quick Laughing Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post  richter69 October 17th 2010, 9:56 pm

my little buddy was out yesterday with his a headed fairmont, pretty much the same set up as you, he's got 38 nozzels in it now.


we put some M5 in it and he saw a .08 improvement and just over a .5 mph in the traps, had more with tuning, its all i had brought with me though lol.
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Post  David Cole October 17th 2010, 10:14 pm

cool40 wrote:yep,Athens is just down the road from me.i'd like to see your ride when it's done.where do you run at? Smile i go to huntsville sometimes but it's been a while,us43 in ethridge has been real good this year.

I race mainly at Steele (Alabama International). Come on down sometime. Only about 1:15 from Huntsville. Good regular weekly program + a $5K once a month.

Glad you got your running. That one barrel does turn up quick doesn't it. Very Happy That's why I use a 3 step for the burnout. Without one, it's just too easy to hit the high side chip before you can lift your foot off the pedal.
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Post  cool40 October 17th 2010, 10:30 pm

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cool40 wrote:yep,Athens is just down the road from me.i'd like to see your ride when it's done.where do you run at? Smile i go to huntsville sometimes but it's been a while,us43 in ethridge has been real good this year.

I race mainly at Steele (Alabama International). Come on down sometime. Only about 1:15 from Huntsville. Good regular weekly program + a $5K once a month.

Glad you got your running. That one barrel does turn up quick doesn't it. Very Happy That's why I use a 3 step for the burnout. Without one, it's just too easy to hit the high side chip before you can lift your foot off the pedal.
i've always wanted to try Seele out.i'll yell at you sometime and come down.
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Post  cool40 October 17th 2010, 10:37 pm

richter69 wrote:my little buddy was out yesterday with his a headed fairmont, pretty much the same set up as you, he's got 38 nozzels in it now.


we put some M5 in it and he saw a .08 improvement and just over a .5 mph in the traps, had more with tuning, its all i had brought with me though lol.
i left the 40's in with a 92pill.they've got 2 of everything to use at the track friday night so i'll swap them out and run it.i cant wait to hit this bitch and see what it does. Laughing if it runs good,i'm gona "twist it's tail"for be'en a PIA! Laughing
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Post  racerk_2000 October 18th 2010, 12:56 pm

What track are you going to on Friday? I would like to learn about tuning on the Rons system. Might be able to help out if needed.

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Post  richter69 October 18th 2010, 1:17 pm

cool40 wrote:
richter69 wrote:my little buddy was out yesterday with his a headed fairmont, pretty much the same set up as you, he's got 38 nozzels in it now.


we put some M5 in it and he saw a .08 improvement and just over a .5 mph in the traps, had more with tuning, its all i had brought with me though lol.
i left the 40's in with a 92pill.they've got 2 of everything to use at the track friday night so i'll swap them out and run it.i cant wait to hit this bitch and see what it does. Laughing if it runs good,i'm gona "twist it's tail"for be'en a PIA! Laughing

I'll have you using green oil before you know it............. Wink
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Post  cool40 October 18th 2010, 9:29 pm

racerk_2000 wrote:What track are you going to on Friday? I would like to learn about tuning on the Rons system. Might be able to help out if needed.
us43 in ethridge,TN.i'm learnen too Laughing i've learned that shit will make you cry if you run it inside,even with all the doors open. Very Happy
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Post  cool40 October 18th 2010, 9:34 pm

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richter69 wrote:my little buddy was out yesterday with his a headed fairmont, pretty much the same set up as you, he's got 38 nozzels in it now.


we put some M5 in it and he saw a .08 improvement and just over a .5 mph in the traps, had more with tuning, its all i had brought with me though lol.
i left the 40's in with a 92pill.they've got 2 of everything to use at the track friday night so i'll swap them out and run it.i cant wait to hit this bitch and see what it does. Laughing if it runs good,i'm gona "twist it's tail"for be'en a PIA! Laughing

I'll have you using green oil before you know it............. Wink
Suspect what you talken bout Lewis! Laughing i'll have some m5 if i can find some.i dont know about the green oil? Laughing
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Post  richter69 October 18th 2010, 9:34 pm

cool40 wrote:
racerk_2000 wrote:What track are you going to on Friday? I would like to learn about tuning on the Rons system. Might be able to help out if needed.
us43 in ethridge,TN.i'm learnen too Laughing i've learned that shit will make you cry if you run it inside,even with all the doors open. Very Happy


quit being a pussy.....................gotta toughen up if you want to play with M5........that shit takes no prisoners in the fume department............... cheers
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Post  cool40 October 18th 2010, 9:56 pm

Laughing i cant wait for my wife to get a snort of the alky,she'll spew. Laughing
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Post  richter69 October 18th 2010, 10:06 pm

when we put the M5 in Mark's fairmont I asked him if it was sealed good...he assured me it was.............needless to say he was ready to get out after the M5 pass............said he nearly had to bail right after the burnout. Laughing


Don't put no fruity crap in it for the smell..................that way you get the raw musk of the alky.............you'll be an alky injected freak like me and KY now.......................... Cool
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