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Post  Mark460 November 30th 2011, 10:32 am

I’m looking for some help at reading a couple plugs on a newly built strip street 460, DOVE heads, 10:1 CR. In the pic below, at left is No. 4 plug and on the right is No. 1. I’ve got about 200 miles driving the car breaking it in. I put some new AR 33 plugs in and after about an hour of run time mostly on highway and nailing the throttle a few times. The No. 4 plug porcelain is a lot darker than the other plugs. I did a quick compression check between No 4 cylinder and No1 and it was almost the same. What does this dark plug tell me? The metal part of the No. 4 plug shows clean because I wiped some residue off it. Any tips or advise would be appreciated.

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Post  bruno November 30th 2011, 10:34 am

looks like oil contamination to me on #4 .......

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Post  Mark460 November 30th 2011, 10:41 am

Judging from the compression check, I would assume oil is not getting past the rings. I don't think it would be the valve seals, but I can check. I'm thinking some oil is getting past the intake gasket then, does this sound likely? Thanks

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Post  dfree383 November 30th 2011, 10:51 am

Worth checking.
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Post  Mark460 December 1st 2011, 10:24 pm

I pulled the pvc and taped the hole shut, started the engine and covered the other valve cover hole with my hand while it was running. I couldn't really feel a vacuum, but I did pull the intake anyways. It looks like the intake gasket wasn't compressed all the way at the bottom slightly. I did use the rubber end gaskets and I know I shouldn't have. Any tips on what I should do now? Should I use any gasket sealer? I'll use RTV and seal the ends. Anything else. Thanks

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Post  cool40 December 1st 2011, 10:51 pm

Mark460 wrote:I pulled the pvc and taped the hole shut, started the engine and covered the other valve cover hole with my hand while it was running. I couldn't really feel a vacuum, but I did pull the intake anyways. It looks like the intake gasket wasn't compressed all the way at the bottom slightly. I did use the rubber end gaskets and I know I shouldn't have. Any tips on what I should do now? Should I use any gasket sealer? I'll use RTV and seal the ends. Anything else. Thanks
i use RTV on the ends.what kinda gasket,felpro? be'n on #4 plug and you said your running a pvc it could be sucking oil through it from the v/c,then into the intake.if your pvc hose is like 99%,its on the back of the carb.did you look at #8 as well? Suspect
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Post  jrocco December 2nd 2011, 9:12 am

Mark460 wrote:Any tips on what I should do now? Should I use any gasket sealer? I'll use RTV and seal the ends. Anything else. Thanks

Best thing I have found so far is "The Right Stuff" by 3 M.
http://www.permatex.com/products/Automotive/automotive_gasketing/gasket_makers/auto_Permatex_the_Right_Stuff_Gasket_Maker.htm

O'Reilly (and others) carry it.


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Post  Mark460 December 2nd 2011, 10:30 am

you said your running a pvc it could be sucking oil through it from the v/c,then into the intake.if your pvc hose is like 99%,its on the back of the carb.did you look at #8 as well?

Ah man, I didn't think about this. I've got a Weiand Stealth and I hate to admit where I looked the PCV line to, you guessed it, the port on the #4 intake runner. Maybe I'll just take the PCV system off for now and just run breathers, because valve cover doesn't even have an oil baffle under the PCV valve.

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Post  69F100 December 2nd 2011, 11:32 am

If you are running this engine on the street if so you need the PVC valve hooked up.I would put a baffle in the valve cover it not that hard to put a baffle in if you have aluminum valve cover if you have steel tack weld one in.


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Post  69F100 December 2nd 2011, 11:37 am

Forgot Advance Auto parts carry the rubber grommet with the baffle built in it I think they come 2 to a pack over where they keep the chrome valve cover caps.

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Post  cool40 December 3rd 2011, 8:28 pm

Mark460 wrote:
you said your running a pvc it could be sucking oil through it from the v/c,then into the intake.if your pvc hose is like 99%,its on the back of the carb.did you look at #8 as well?

Ah man, I didn't think about this. I've got a Weiand Stealth and I hate to admit where I looked the PCV line to, you guessed it, the port on the #4 intake runner. Maybe I'll just take the PCV system off for now and just run breathers, because valve cover doesn't even have an oil baffle under the PCV valve.

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