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Post  digger460 July 8th 2012, 10:56 pm

What are you guys using? Especially in the mud. I got one of the new Ford mini starters' its not any better than the old style. I can get one start and then it gets hot and won't start again for at least a couple hours until it cools down. Even with the timing retarded.

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Post  richter69 July 8th 2012, 11:04 pm

mines over 14.5-1 and starts great with the same starter, even when it was 12v...............I'll bet you got a cable or a ground issue, even rotor phase can be a problem.
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Post  schmitty July 8th 2012, 11:29 pm

I had that problem with my old Sportsman/Super Stock engine. It didn't matter what was on it for a starter, it just wouldn't turn it over. My solution is a jump box directly hooked to the solenoid. That did the trick every time. I could get to it easily under the fender, but was just about to put the solenoid in the cab on the passenger side where it would easier to get to when needed. Check the grounds really good, as well as all cable connections. Cool
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Post  samiam July 9th 2012, 12:01 am

CSR makes a good starter, mine is 14. comp. starts hot all the time, as stated above, check for good cables and connections
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Post  ThndrChkn July 9th 2012, 1:07 am

I agree, check all of your connections, and make sure you have good grounds. I probably go overkill on grounds to most people, but my 521 was 14.2:1 C/R and with a Digital6 Plus I ran a stock Ford starter I got from Carquest about 6 years ago, that I took off of my street truck and ran it for 3 years on the Banana without issue...
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Post  digger460 July 10th 2012, 5:51 pm

If it was a bad connection, cable, or ground wouldn' it suck on cold start also. But I did go ahead and clean all my connections. Add another ground. Ck'd all the cables and still no start when warm..
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Post  ThndrChkn July 11th 2012, 1:14 am

H'MMMMM! That's nuts.. Suspect
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Post  lghting94 July 11th 2012, 8:01 am

What size cables? To small of a cable will cause this issue when hot because the wire cant carry enough amps to turn the starter correctly. Also look at the strands of the cable the finer the strands the more amps it will carry as long as the cable size is the same.
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Post  HorsinAround July 11th 2012, 11:51 am

Make sure the primary cable is big enough.
Also, this is what I used on my puller with 16:1 compression with locked out distributor and never had a problem hot or cold. (I would spin the motor before hitting the ignition swtich though)

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-820048-M/Application/?prefilter=1
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Post  Barney July 11th 2012, 3:09 pm

I have a Powermaster Ultra Torque on my 16/1 motor, works great.
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Post  TRUKPULR July 11th 2012, 8:04 pm

OK I don't know how big of cable you have on your starter system. But here's what I did, Went to Tractor warehouse and got me 20' of single O't welding cable and clamps in the welding section, I then make my cables and solder the clamps on the cables. Put some shrink wrap on them and install them.



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Post  jasonf July 11th 2012, 8:47 pm

TRUKPULR wrote:OK I don't know how big of cable you have on your starter system. But here's what I did, Went to Tractor warehouse and got me 20' of single O't welding cable and clamps in the welding section, I then make my cables and solder the clamps on the cables. Put some shrink wrap on them and install them.



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With my battery in the trunk that is what cable use. If you are having questionable ground issues try running an extra ground cable right off one of the starter bolts and see if that helps. You can never have enough grounds IMO.
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