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Post  TorinoGT July 3rd 2010, 11:18 pm

Here is my BF Evans / Jet Boat Bob built 572 pump gas street engine... to be installed in my 1970 Torino GT

A460 Block (4.5 bore)
Scat Forged crank (4.5 stroke)
Scat Forged H-Beams
Diamond Forged dish pistons (10.6:1)
P-51 out of the box (Ti retainers, standard P51 valves)
Full solid roller, custom grind roller cam, FRPP roller rockers
Jomar stud girdle
MSD 351w distributor w/ bronze 460 gear.
FRPP alum. water pump
FRPP t. chain set .
Kaase oil pump
FRPP A521 damper
ARP head sud kit
FRPP victor style intake
QFT 1050 Dominator
Jomar power cone spacer

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A huge thanks to Lem Evans for his *exceptional* customer service (and hospitality). I sent an email to Lem asking about building an engine for me. I got a CALL back within an hour! Lem took the time to talk to me about my goals, worked out some of my questions on unknowns... came back to me in a few days time with a price quote... and after a few changes, ADDITIONS and modifications came within dollars of his original quote... NO hidden suprises.

Big thanks for a job well done to Jet Boat Bob, super nice guy beautifull job on the build!... and Mike from Automotive Machine & Perf for the dyno session and help packing the big block for the long rige home!

Shane


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Post  Nevs July 3rd 2010, 11:26 pm

Nice build and nice numbers! I agree, Lem is a hard guy to beat. He understands customer service. Pretty rare these days. Cool
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Post  BBFmustang July 4th 2010, 10:00 am

nice power #'s that low end tq will get that big car moven with horsepower kicken when gets ROLLEN. Ihave always liked torinos
Cool wish i still had my 72 for a steet car
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Post  Lem Evans July 5th 2010, 11:53 am

Very Happy should be a Cool Torino.

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Post  KY JELLY July 5th 2010, 12:56 pm

nice power that's awesome for pump gas
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Post  TorinoGT July 5th 2010, 5:29 pm

Yes im very happy with the dyno results... I know I have left ALOT of potential on the table with the 10:1 compression for pump gas, and a relatively mild cam (and smallish 1050 carb too). but this *IS* a 100% street driven car, with alot of miles clocked at "cruises"...

this winter will be spend getting the chassis together to put this to the street...

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Post  KY JELLY July 5th 2010, 8:29 pm

I realize you have left some potential on the table , but do you realize that engine would run deep into the 5 second zone 1/8 mile in a 2400-2500 lb chassis car on pump gas affraid
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Post  valleydawg July 6th 2010, 10:14 am

Sweet
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Post  droppedf100 July 6th 2010, 4:27 pm

Thats is awesome. I need a set-up like that. What size headers did you use? Do you plan on running it in any certain class or just street/ test & tune?
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Post  Lem Evans July 6th 2010, 4:39 pm

Headers at the dyno were 2".

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Post  TorinoGT July 6th 2010, 8:57 pm

KY JELLY wrote:I realize you have left some potential on the table , but do you realize that engine would run deep into the 5 second zone 1/8 mile in a 2400-2500 lb chassis car on pump gas affraid

what do you think it will do in a 1/16 mile stoplight race Smile

valleydawg wrote:Sweet

thanks!

droppedf100 wrote:Thats is awesome. I need a set-up like that. What size headers did you use? Do you plan on running it in any certain class or just street/ test & tune?

this will be 100% street driven... ive owned that Torino since 1992 and have had no desire to drive it down the strip... I just enjoy beating up local rice burners and mid 90s camaros with huge rear tires. Smile

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Post  Doug Rahn July 7th 2010, 6:54 am

Very 572 P-51 Pump Gas Street Engine Icon_cool ! I agree 100% Shane. You can't beat those Evans/Hardison builds. Lem and Jet Boat Bob built my engine back in 2005, Charlie did the heads and T-ram. It has run flawlessly ever since we pulled it off of the dyno, and like you said, no surprises when I went and picked it up. The Kentucky Krew is very meticulous about their work 572 P-51 Pump Gas Street Engine Icon_cheers .
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Post  dfree383 July 7th 2010, 7:08 am

I'd agree with Doug, You get what you pay for in Kentucky. Much nicer crowd than alot of the Big City shops.
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Post  nuclearcobra July 7th 2010, 2:21 pm

TorinoGT wrote:
KY JELLY wrote:I realize you have left some potential on the table , but do you realize that engine would run deep into the 5 second zone 1/8 mile in a 2400-2500 lb chassis car on pump gas affraid

what do you think it will do in a 1/16 mile stoplight race Smile

valleydawg wrote:Sweet

thanks!

droppedf100 wrote:Thats is awesome. I need a set-up like that. What size headers did you use? Do you plan on running it in any certain class or just street/ test & tune?

this will be 100% street driven... ive owned that Torino since 1992 and have had no desire to drive it down the strip... I just enjoy beating up local rice burners and mid 90s camaros with huge rear tires. Smile

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Post  droppedf100 July 7th 2010, 3:16 pm

TorinoGT wrote:this will be 100% street driven... ive owned that Torino since 1992 and have had no desire to drive it down the strip... I just enjoy beating up local rice burners and mid 90s camaros with huge rear tires. Smile

LOL you can do that with an iron headed 466. I know I have Smile

I need to start saving up. Id rock that motor with a plate and really suprise some people Laughing
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Post  TorinoGT July 7th 2010, 4:38 pm

droppedf100 wrote:LOL you can do that with an iron headed 466. I know I have Smile

I need to start saving up. Id rock that motor with a plate and really suprise some people Laughing

Thats what ive been doing since 1992 with my garage built, iron head 466. But technology has long since passed me up...

When I first built the car, mustangs and camaros came from the factory with under 250 hp... pretty easy kills... but as life has gone on... technology has passed me up (and aftermarket). Now cars come from the factory with 300, 400, 500hp... I also have a small personal vendetta against a local Shelby 500 mustang, and a supercharged fox body mustang. I hope to suprise them next time I see them Smile

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Post  droppedf100 July 8th 2010, 1:28 am

Yeah you have some bigger targets not your average daily drivers lol. Should go pretty deep into the 10s if you took it to the track. I cant believe you dont want to run it. I race everything I own. Both of my trucks, my dads truck, my quad. Trying to get the gf to race her Saab too.
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Post  c.evans July 8th 2010, 10:32 am

Shane,

You have very nice manifold distribution,,,,,left bank to right bank A/F ratio there on the dyno sheet. Also another good point is that the engine is making 742 Hp or more, from 5800 rpm to 6500 rpm. That's a nice broad Hp curve. Very Happy

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Post  dfree383 July 8th 2010, 10:38 am

Did you guys pull this one down ??? do any EMC Style Pulls?? it would have been interestinig to see the numbers a 2500-6500.

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Post  Lem Evans July 8th 2010, 10:45 am

No.

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Post  bbf-falcon July 8th 2010, 11:45 am

TorinoGT wrote:
droppedf100 wrote:LOL you can do that with an iron headed 466. I know I have Smile

I need to start saving up. Id rock that motor with a plate and really suprise some people Laughing

Thats what ive been doing since 1992 with my garage built, iron head 466. But technology has long since passed me up...

When I first built the car, mustangs and camaros came from the factory with under 250 hp... pretty easy kills... but as life has gone on... technology has passed me up (and aftermarket). Now cars come from the factory with 300, 400, 500hp... I also have a small personal vendetta against a local Shelby 500 mustang, and a supercharged fox body mustang. I hope to suprise them next time I see them Smile

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Shane,are you going to run any kind of soft street tire on the car.All that low end is gonna be hard to control w.reg radials. Nice build and nice Torino Smile

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Post  TorinoGT July 8th 2010, 3:49 pm

droppedf100 wrote:Yeah you have some bigger targets not your average daily drivers lol. Should go pretty deep into the 10s if you took it to the track. I cant believe you dont want to run it. I race everything I own. Both of my trucks, my dads truck, my quad. Trying to get the gf to race her Saab too.

Different strokes I guess... not everyone wants to get in the car, cruise around Woodward... park... hang out, cruise again... etc etc... but thats my thing.. Woodward dream cruise is my superbowl... I spend 9 or 10 days in a row cruisin.

bbf-falcon wrote:Shane,are you going to run any kind of soft street tire on the car.All that low end is gonna be hard to control w.reg radials. Nice build and nice Torino Smile

I currently run Mickey Thompson street radials on there now. (275/65)... with a Detroit locker.
This winter the car will be mini tubbed and 4 linked... will get wider street radials. hopefully ill be able to put the power to the ground then!

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Post  70429scj July 9th 2010, 11:16 pm

Being a 2 torino owner myself I would not mini tub the car. Talk to other guys on this forum Tore,Greg,to mention a few who have high hp cars and run what is considered more of a street setup. I belive there is a Car
with 15x12 wheels Caltracs mono leaf springs Rancho 9 way adjustable shocks that if memory serves correctly has dipped into the 8 second zone. Nothing like a stock appearing suspension to make the competion think the car is not fast and won't hook. Just food for thought.
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Post  TorinoGT July 10th 2010, 12:02 am

70429scj wrote:Being a 2 torino owner myself I would not mini tub the car. Talk to other guys on this forum Tore,Greg,to mention a few who have high hp cars and run what is considered more of a street setup.
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I agree... but Greg P's car *IS* minitubbed... and looks very good! Still retains a certain factory look. not over the top at all.

I personally DO like the look of fully tubbed cars... but also like cars that still look factory, with just slight mods. thats why I plan on going the mini tub route. there is a green 73 Mach 1 ( https://www.429-460.com/proven-builds-f4/1973-mach-1-t2953.htm ) that I think looks awesome with its mini tub. thats the look I am going for.

here is a pic of my engine with a slight makeover... being somewhat of a purist... I like the Ford blue better Smile

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Post  droppedf100 July 10th 2010, 3:21 pm

TorinoGT wrote:
droppedf100 wrote:Yeah you have some bigger targets not your average daily drivers lol. Should go pretty deep into the 10s if you took it to the track. I cant believe you dont want to run it. I race everything I own. Both of my trucks, my dads truck, my quad. Trying to get the gf to race her Saab too.

Different strokes I guess... not everyone wants to get in the car, cruise around Woodward... park... hang out, cruise again... etc etc... but thats my thing.. Woodward dream cruise is my superbowl... I spend 9 or 10 days in a row cruisin.Shane
Im not saying anything about cruising I drive my truck everywhere. My truck has power steering, heat, full stereo, carpet, quietish exhaust. I dont own a trailer and have driven over 100 miles one way. Ive drove 60 miles to meet up for a race sprayed it and drove home. But I also frequent the track. We have many car meets around my way and I go to as many as I can. If I had your motor I would do the same.
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