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Post  derek528 July 6th 2010, 6:16 pm

I'm looking at buying a used a460 block, but the current owner told me the front main cap is cracked. Anyone here ever broken a cap on one? Should I consider buying this if the price is right? My brother runs a machine shop so replacing the caps and and boring the mains can be done for just the price of the caps. Are the mains available separate from the block?

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Post  dfree383 July 6th 2010, 6:21 pm

I never heard of cracking caps as a problem, I'd be worried about other stress problems, what was the block used for??
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Post  Lem Evans July 6th 2010, 6:24 pm

Make sure it's the cap and not the block that is cracked at #1. There has to be a blown A460 sitting somewhere with a good #1 cap.

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Post  derek528 July 6th 2010, 6:50 pm

dfree383 wrote:I never heard of cracking caps as a problem, I'd be worried about other stress problems, what was the block used for??

Yeah I'm worried about that also. He didn't say what the block was used for. If I could get it cheap enough I think it might be worth my time. It seems to me it could be two things, either it could have possibly been a defective cap, or the block has underwent lots of abuse, or a combination of the two.

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Post  rmcomprandy July 6th 2010, 6:57 pm

OR ... someone dropped the block on the front main.

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Post  Lem Evans July 6th 2010, 6:58 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:OR ... someone dropped the block on the front main.
Smile ........ Shocked ....... Laughing

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Post  derek528 July 6th 2010, 7:26 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:OR ... someone dropped the block on the front main.

odder things have happened.

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Post  c.evans July 6th 2010, 9:51 pm

I'm pretty sure I have an extra front main from an A-460 block. Just got to find it in the garage.

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Post  derek528 July 6th 2010, 10:20 pm

c.evans wrote:I'm pretty sure I have an extra front main from an A-460 block. Just got to find it in the garage.

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Thanks Charlie, I'll get with you if the deal goes through.

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Post  maverick July 6th 2010, 10:44 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:OR ... someone dropped the block on the front main.

I 've seen that done. It cracked the block right next to the front main stud. Mad
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Post  derek528 July 12th 2010, 4:44 pm

It turns out that the block is cracked in the main saddle. I could've swore that he said the cap was cracked, but I may have just misunderstood him.

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Post  dfree383 July 12th 2010, 4:52 pm

Thats one to pass on.......
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Post  138 July 12th 2010, 6:10 pm

derek528 wrote:It turns out that the block is cracked in the main saddle. I could've swore that he said the cap was cracked, but I may have just misunderstood him.


buy the caps bounce

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Post  Paul Kane July 12th 2010, 6:16 pm

derek528 wrote:It turns out that the block is cracked in the main saddle.
Usually the result of a spun main that got really hot, the main almost always cracks perpendicular to the saddle right across (and through) the main oil feed, or it cracks in-line with the saddle from the main oil feed to the cam oil feed....or it cracks in both places.

Technically, such a main web crack is repairable by knowledgeable and experienced expert, but in an A460 block that may see gobs of power you are better off starting with a clean slate.

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Post  Paul Kane July 12th 2010, 6:19 pm

Derek, what is the asking price for this block?
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Post  derek528 July 12th 2010, 10:08 pm

Paul Kane wrote:Derek, what is the asking price for this block?

He wanted 1500 for it and a set of used oliver 6.8 2.200 rods. When he told me that the block was cracked I lost interest and didn't negotiate any further. It seems like he doesn't want to sell the block alone.

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Post  c.evans July 13th 2010, 1:31 am

Was this deal some kind of "find" on the internet? Was it's number 1 main webbing cracked all the way up to the camshaft?

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Post  derek528 July 13th 2010, 4:43 pm

c.evans wrote:Was this deal some kind of "find" on the internet? Was it's number 1 main webbing cracked all the way up to the camshaft?

Charlie

He just told me that it has a hairline crack in the main saddle connecting to one of the bolt holes. I found the block on racing junk. It is about 1.5 hours from me, so I have not seen it in person.

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Post  c.evans July 13th 2010, 7:31 pm

I'd run away from it,,,,,if you are planning on making any kind of serious horsepower.

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Post  derek528 July 13th 2010, 8:59 pm

c.evans wrote:I'd run away from it,,,,,if you are planning on making any kind of serious horsepower.

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Yeah I decided against using it as soon as I found out the block was cracked. I've been looking for a used a460 block for awhile now, I guess I'll just keep looking.

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Post  cool40 July 13th 2010, 9:55 pm

derek528 wrote:
c.evans wrote:I'd run away from it,,,,,if you are planning on making any kind of serious horsepower.

Charlie

Yeah I decided against using it as soon as I found out the block was cracked. I've been looking for a used a460 block for awhile now, I guess I'll just keep looking.
this may not sound like i mean for it to so dont take me wrong,after having a few ass burnings you'll figure out that a new block would be a good investment.all too often the good deals are not so good by the time you fix a used part.if you stick with the folks on here you'll be ok but know what your payen for and what you want. Smile
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Post  derek528 July 14th 2010, 5:13 pm

cool40 wrote:
derek528 wrote:
c.evans wrote:I'd run away from it,,,,,if you are planning on making any kind of serious horsepower.

Charlie

Yeah I decided against using it as soon as I found out the block was cracked. I've been looking for a used a460 block for awhile now, I guess I'll just keep looking.
this may not sound like i mean for it to so dont take me wrong,after having a few ass burnings you'll figure out that a new block would be a good investment.all too often the good deals are not so good by the time you fix a used part.if you stick with the folks on here you'll be ok but know what your payen for and what you want. Smile

I agree. I will probably end up buying a new block, but I'm still keeping me eyes open for a deal too good to pass up.

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