Solid Roller Lifter Choices........

Just thinking about avaliable lifters for a Regular BBF.

Comp Cams - Regular and Elite series.

Morel - Can never seem to find much info on them..... PBM the same?

Crower - Several Choices Hippo's Ect.

Isky - Several Choices, Red Zones and EZ roll stuff

Jesel - Offer some cool link bar ones plus their usual high end stuff, but the high end ones really aren't drop in's

Am I missing any ones worth mentioning? any opinions?

I'm avoiding mentioning some of the "Lower end" manufactures that offer some parts.

What about Lunati?

I have Jesel link bars. There is a difference if you want full tilt. Craig was having trouble keeping lifters alive until he made the switch.

PBM/ERSON

Yea I did miss Lunati and Crane, But I didn't think Lunati offered anything "Special".... I'm not sure what Crane is offering if anything right now.

bruno wrote:PBM/ERSON

Yes but is that a Morel? or is Morel a PBM Product?

dfree383 wrote:

bruno wrote:PBM/ERSON

Yes but is that a Morel? or is Morel a PBM Product?

Just remember that when someone lables their product as someone else's, the quality may belong to the name and not the manufacturer.

Curt wrote:I have Jesel link bars. There is a difference if you want full tilt. Craig was having trouble keeping lifters alive until he made the switch.

I'd agree those are probably the Top Dog avaliable for a drop in Lifter, but they are about 25-50% more than most of the other top offerings for those that are $$$ Sensitive.

Curt wrote:

dfree383 wrote:

bruno wrote:PBM/ERSON

Yes but is that a Morel? or is Morel a PBM Product?

Just remember that when someone lables their product as someone else's, the quality may belong to the name and not the manufacturer.

Very True, But Morel seems to be in stealth mode as far as products go.

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Crane Ultra Pro .904" diameter here.

If you want some Morel info:

http://johncalliesinc.com/

Frank

Morel supplies product to PBM and several others.

Curt wrote:I have Jesel link bars. There is a difference if you want full tilt. Craig was having trouble keeping lifters alive until he made the switch.

Just to put some context to Craig's deal........he used the Crower .904" stuff for several years with good results with his C460 package. When he went to the Thor heads the intake lifters started to break.thus the move to Jesel .

Frank Kramer wrote:Crane Ultra Pro .904" diameter here.

If you want some Morel info:

http://johncalliesinc.com/

Frank

Thanks Frank, Been looking for some info on them

Lem Evans wrote:

Curt wrote:I have Jesel link bars. There is a difference if you want full tilt. Craig was having trouble keeping lifters alive until he made the switch.

Just to put some context to Craig's deal........he used the Crower .904" stuff for several years with good results with his C460 package. When he went to the Thor heads the intake lifters started to break.thus the move to Jesel .

Lem, actually Craig was using .874 in the old C stuff.

I'd quess you'd know.....having one of his X- engines. Maybe the 904" stuff was in his last C460 package or he was putting the B.S. on me
Then again.....maybe somebody was putting the B.S. on him as to what he had in the engine...

I see no mention of Howards, I have been running mine 2 years now.

bigblok2000ranger wrote:I see no mention of Howards, I have been running mine 2 years now.

In which appication and how much? spring pressure?
I'm not picking on you... just want to have some context to the use.

i use BULLIT CAMS and love the customer service and the quality of the cams and lifters

bigblok2000ranger wrote:I see no mention of Howards, I have been running mine 2 years now.

Which Howards? They have two different solid roller lifters for the 460. Their top of the line pin oiling "Pro Max" lifter is a Morel.

http://www.howardscams.com/index.php/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=314

I do not know who makes the std Howards lifter.

Doug Herbert also sells the Morel pin oiling lifter under their "Total Pro" line. I have these in my 598. Not listed on their website. Paper catalog or PDF of the catalog. Page 23 part # HERT 5456. $560 Even has the same 5456 part # as listed in the chart on the Morel site.

https://www.dougherbert.com/2010_Doug_Herbert_Parts_Catalog.pdf

Well I have the standard solid roller Howards and I believe they are made by Howards, Not sure of exact spring pressures engine builder's spring tester only went to 450# and they were at that around .400" lift. I believe that Howards quoted me 600#@.692 lift which is what my cam is rated at. Not saying they are top of the line but I wouldn't count them out as a good choice either. Maybe someone else would know I am running Congo Springs @1.900 installed.

Lem Evans wrote:

Just to put some context to Craig's deal........he used the Crower .904" stuff for several years with good results with his C460 package. When he went to the Thor heads the intake lifters started to break.thus the move to Jesel .

That was all I was saying. After he got into a real need for the best, the Jesel's fit the bill quite well.

Curt wrote:

Lem Evans wrote:

Just to put some context to Craig's deal........he used the Crower .904" stuff for several years with good results with his C460 package. When he went to the Thor heads the intake lifters started to break.thus the move to Jesel .

That was all I was saying. After he got into a real need for the best, the Jesel's fit the bill quite well.

All the Thor head users that I know so far are using dogbone's (Jesel) or keyed (Jesel or LSM). On of them had the same problems before he switched to a 60mm camshaft with the Dogbone's.

Frank