Just got the new Hot Rod magazine and I am pissed

What is wrong with these knuckleheads with putting there goofy brand X motors in damn near every ford product you can think of. Don't they know anybody that knows how to build a ford engine in there areas? And don't give me any of that shit that they are so cheap to build compared to a ford either as most of the ones I saw were VERY high buck engines. I have said this before the cheapest to build up to 450 hp is the bbf 385 series. After that to 750 it is probably the bbc but not by much, after that it is a wash. 1200 or so hp is going to cost 20,000.00 or so regardless of what you build or have built for you. A coyote crate engine is 420 hp as it comes from ford and is very accepting for a blower as it comes from ford for up to 1000hp they say. The small block ford blocks are very close to the same cost as the brand X when you get to the Dart ones and the others. And heads are a wash too. I am so damn pissed tonight I can hardly think. Am I missing something here ? Come on guys tell me. Jay Brown's Galaxy as heavy as it is went very well and won. And we know that was with a cammer which is a rare and I might add expensive engine, but it went like crazy in that heavy unaerodynamic Galaxy. Am I remembering right that it made about 900 hp? That ain't too hard to do with a 385 series engine for less than 15,000.00. And that's with the same type cylinder heads as the stockers. Think Kasse P 51's. They are about 1600.00 a pair bare then the valves are the same price as the brand  X stuff. You know what I am getting at. I almost had a crappy feeling in my stomach after reading all this brand X bullshit. I guess the only thing I will say is that they do go out there and compete with their stuff.

Hot Rod has been PRO chevy since day 1, its sister rag is Super Chevy.... they try, but even in pro mopar or ford articles there is always a dig where a chevy could have done it better.

Hey bro every body knows that a junk yard 4.8 5.3 0r 6.0LT1 LS1 lsx turbo or nos ingested are the fastest thing on the planet. !!!!   
Just like the 283 327 350 400 396 402 409 427 454 were back in there day:evil:   ya da ya da!   

Its all B.S and its what make parts sale and the world keeps turning:arrow: 

whitefield wrote:Hey bro every body knows that a junk yard 4.8 5.3 0r 6.0LT1 LS1 lsx turbo or nos ingested are the fastest thing on the planet. !!!!   
Just like the 283 327 350 400 396 402 409 427 454 were back in there day:evil:   ya da ya da!   

 Its all B.S and its what make parts sale and the world keeps turning:arrow: 

Missed a couple of the Generals pride and joy

2 Small block Chevrolet V8 (1955–1998)
3 3.875 in. bore family (1955–1973) 3.1 265
3.2 283
3.3 307

4 4.00 in bore family (1962–1998) 4.1 302
4.2 327
4.3 350

5 4.125 in bore family (1970–1980) 5.1 400

6 3.671 in bore family (1975–2003) 6.1 262
6.2 305

7 3.50 in bore family (1979–1982) 7.1 267

Yeah I read it on the plane yesterday. Out of the whole article I think there were 2 Ford in a Fords. WTF? I was pretty pissed too. There were some classes that only had a couple cars in them but they said they sold out in 8 hours; I didn't get that. Regardless it was a big disappointment. I thought they should just change the name to Chevy drag week. Hell there was even a bowtie Mopar in there.

kim wrote:

whitefield wrote:Hey bro every body knows that a junk yard 4.8 5.3 0r 6.0LT1 LS1 lsx turbo or nos ingested are the fastest thing on the planet. !!!!   
Just like the 283 327 350 400 396 402 409 427 454 were back in there day:evil:   ya da ya da!   

 Its all B.S and its what make parts sale and the world keeps turning:arrow: 

Missed a couple of the Generals pride and joy

2 Small block Chevrolet V8 (1955–1998)
3 3.875 in. bore family (1955–1973) 3.1 265
3.2 283
3.3 307

4 4.00 in bore family (1962–1998) 4.1 302
4.2 327
4.3 350

5 4.125 in bore family (1970–1980) 5.1 400

6 3.671 in bore family (1975–2003) 6.1 262
6.2 305

7 3.50 in bore family (1979–1982) 7.1 267

Thanks I was just hitting the high spots Lol:cheers: 

305 and 307 now there is a power house ! 

# deleated the engine, its the original 265 cu in V found in the early corvette.. GM forgot to put in an oil filter provision.

Better an American V8 and an Asian 4 cylinder......... Times are changing guys, we all need to stick together and promote the hobby reguardless of the badge.

I dont blame you for being pissed....I hate that crap too. Even 35+ yrs ago I hated it. Want a chevy engine put it in a chevy vehicle. I will never accept "it could be worse" logic.  Nothing worse as far as Im concerned.

Hard core Ford since I was a kid.
Tim

What came first ... the chicken or the egg...?
The reason is that the aftermarket has been promoting this stuff for the past 20 or so years and if you believe the line from that movie, "if you build it , they will come", then you have to look no further to see where all that mindset originates.

Sad really that the people trying to be in this realm of life are mostly just a bunch of sheep.

"Bunch of sheep" is sure right, and I get so sick when they say "want to make a Ford run better, put a cheby in it"  . Most of them can barely put gas in the tank and have to have someone else change their oil  

dfree383 wrote:Better an American V8 and an Asian 4 cylinder......... Times are changing guys, we all need to stick  together and promote the hobby reguardless of the badge.

BULL SHIT:evil: 
You are getting pansy on us Freelander. next you will be putting that BBC you have in the Foxbody.  

I almost bought a 67 chevelle to stuff a bbf into but the owner found out and pulled the plug

Of course there is a lot of different stuff around these parts and the most interesting crossbreeds I have seen recently is a Cleveland engine in a Corvette and a Mopar, cross ram, max wedge in a 68 Camaro.

The magazines probably don't do articles on these type vehicles is because those magazines are mostly about "what shows" and these two cars were not pristine; though certainly done neatly and presentable.

Think about it. Look who we have as President for a second term. Somebody said he was good, just like a Chevy motor. Hot Rod is like NBC, just leading the followers or as a previous poster mentioned "sheepaple", who are not smart enough to know better. LS motors are the hot ticket now, and the new SBC that the market is geared for. The third Gen. LT1 will be next probably?

bbf-falcon wrote:

dfree383 wrote:Better an American V8 and an Asian 4 cylinder......... Times are changing guys, we all need to stick  together and promote the hobby reguardless of the badge.

 BULL SHIT:evil: 
You are getting pansy on us Freelander. next you will be putting that BBC you have in the Foxbody.  

Na..... I don't believe in cross breeding makes. I'm a diehard Ford guy that has an appriciation for all American Iron.

I am with you dfree too. I wish Ford would have used a single bell hosing for all V8's though, and made parts interchangeability a little easier. If they would have made one 351 instead of 3, might have helped. I would go for a mid deck height Cleveland that could go to 400ci, with the same intake, in 2V and 4V heads, with 6" rods. Even better if they did a Clevor (Windsor Block, Clevland Heads) type engine, in the fist place who knows if they would not be the choice of swappers today. I think the SBC just got to much of a head start on the 351 Fords, and I too hate to see a Chevy engine, in a Ford vechicle.