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Post  5pointslow on January 25th 2010, 5:47 pm

gave some thought and priced out some stuff ...im basicly wasting my time with a stock block and for 2k to have a a460 its just
the piece i need ......i want 9.00-9.50 in my lx and i think it would be a good start and not have to lose sleep over the block beeing weak?

i want to know max bore or bore cappacity

and about using wet sump , how much power are some of u guys making with a non dry sump setup?

thanks

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Post  c.evans on January 25th 2010, 6:37 pm

I have yet to find what the max bore is on a FRPP A-460 block. I say that because even on some blown up engines, where you could put your fist through a hole in the cylinder wall, I was amazed at how much wall thickness was still left on engines that were already 4.625" - 4.630", or so. So somewhere bigger than that is my best guess. If you buy a new block from Lem,,,,he'll give you a sonic test sheet on that particular block, so that may help you decide "how big".

As for power with a "non dry sump" engine, I'd say that's up to you. How much do you want to make? As for engines that we've dynoed around here, if I remember correctly, I think one of Kevin's engines was 1071 Hp barefoot and 1371 Hp on spray. That was an FRPP A-96 alum. block however, but both blocks have a dedicated oiling system, so IMO it's up to you and your budget.

Hope this helps,

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Post  5pointslow on January 25th 2010, 8:43 pm

thanks helps alot looking to make 850-950 ish want 9.00-9.50 out of my car ....

but was looking at 4.500 bore and 4.600 bore

was gonna use wet sump not a dry if i could

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Post  dfree383 on January 26th 2010, 5:47 am

Wet sump will work fine IMO

As far as a460 blocks one I have here the sonic test indicates 4.630+ will work if one wanted too.

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Post  DanH on January 26th 2010, 7:56 am

dfree383 wrote:Wet sump will work fine IMO

As far as a460 blocks one I have here the sonic test indicates 4.630+ will work if one wanted too.
how much wall was left at that bore ?

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Post  dfree383 on January 26th 2010, 8:10 am

DanH wrote:
dfree383 wrote:Wet sump will work fine IMO

As far as a460 blocks one I have here the sonic test indicates 4.630+ will work if one wanted too.
how much wall was left at that bore ?


Ford Spec Minimum

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Post  lghting94 on January 26th 2010, 8:23 am

For us that dont know what is Ford Spec Minimum?

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Post  res0rli9 on January 26th 2010, 9:40 am

lghting94 wrote:For us that dont know what is Ford Spec Minimum?


ya becouse Iv got one thats 4.650

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Post  dfree383 on January 26th 2010, 11:25 am

Lem should have it, I can't recall it off the top of my head, but ford does have a minimum wall thickness spec for them to not be considered blems and provide at least a 4.600 bore. From my understanding some come thru much better than others.

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Post  paulie9fingers on January 26th 2010, 11:40 am

c.evans wrote:I have yet to find what the max bore is on a FRPP A-460 block. I say that because even on some blown up engines, where you could put your fist through a hole in the cylinder wall, I was amazed at how much wall thickness was still left on engines that were already 4.625" - 4.630", or so. So somewhere bigger than that is my best guess. If you buy a new block from Lem,,,,he'll give you a sonic test sheet on that particular block, so that may help you decide "how big".

As for power with a "non dry sump" engine, I'd say that's up to you. How much do you want to make? As for engines that we've dynoed around here, if I remember correctly, I think one of Kevin's engines was 1071 Hp barefoot and 1371 Hp on spray. That was an FRPP A-96 alum. block however, but both blocks have a dedicated oiling system, so IMO it's up to you and your budget.

Hope this helps,

Charlie


. . . I didn't get a sonic test sheet Crying or Very sad , my block was drop shipped direct from Ford Racing in Michigan Wink Laughing

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Post  richter69 on January 26th 2010, 1:25 pm

dfree383 wrote:Lem should have it, I can't recall it off the top of my head, but ford does have a minimum wall thickness spec for them to not be considered blems and provide at least a 4.600 bore. From my understanding some come thru much better than others.


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Post  Lem Evans on January 26th 2010, 1:41 pm

The blocks do not come from FRPP with sonic check sheets...they can be requested after the fact .

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Post  bruno on January 26th 2010, 1:45 pm

Lem Evans wrote:The blocks do not come from FRPP with sonic check sheets...they can be requested after the fact .


Which is an additional service and there is a charge ...... correct Lem

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Re: maybe on here alrady but wondering max bore on an a460 block?

Post  Lem Evans on January 26th 2010, 1:55 pm

No charge .

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Re: maybe on here alrady but wondering max bore on an a460 block?

Post  paulie9fingers on January 26th 2010, 3:59 pm

I was only kiddin guys that's why I put the little smiley guys on there, makes no difference to me.

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