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Post  72mav August 10th 2010, 4:24 pm

Hi everyone.
Had to make a call to Crane today. Had to check a spec on some springs I ran acros today. But they were too small..
FYI they will have their full line up by the end of the year. Also, their catalog will be out in aprox 6 weeks Cool
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Post  the Coug August 10th 2010, 8:11 pm

NOT they are on the same list as Jay Freakin Allen in my books cost me an engine and wouldn't warranty their crap so no more....



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Post  Maddmattmustangs August 10th 2010, 9:05 pm

the Coug wrote:NOT they are on the same list as Jay Freakin Allen in my books cost me an engine and wouldn't warranty their crap so no more....



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X2 I had a 302 bite the dust cause of there cam, also wouldn't warranty for a shit either
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Post  72mav August 10th 2010, 9:41 pm

Sorry to hear that Guys.
Always heard great things about them. But I gues anything can happen to anybody in a nutshell.
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Post  Maddmattmustangs August 10th 2010, 9:43 pm

There old management just flat out blew nuts. If I hear they start honoring there warranties then I may buy from them again
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Post  bb429power August 10th 2010, 11:09 pm

My brother went to their website a while back, it was an Australian company. I think it may have been a knock off website, I like Lunati's can choice. Almost bought Crane's rocker arms but Summit took them off the shelf for a while then came back. I wised up and got some nice Harland Sharps. Cool Not saying Crane's were bad.
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Post  342g August 10th 2010, 11:21 pm

bb429power wrote:My brother went to their website a while back, it was an Australian company. I think it may have been a knock off website, I like Lunati's can choice. Almost bought Crane's rocker arms but Summit took them off the shelf for a while then came back. I wised up and got some nice Harland Sharps. Cool Not saying Crane's were bad.

you can't beat crane gold rockers, harlan sharp is junk.
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Post  bb429power August 10th 2010, 11:22 pm

342g wrote:
bb429power wrote:My brother went to their website a while back, it was an Australian company. I think it may have been a knock off website, I like Lunati's can choice. Almost bought Crane's rocker arms but Summit took them off the shelf for a while then came back. I wised up and got some nice Harland Sharps. Cool Not saying Crane's were bad.

you can't beat crane gold rockers, harlan sharp is junk.
I meant the regular cranes. I heard HS's are great, what bad about them? You got me worried.
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Post  342g August 10th 2010, 11:27 pm

depends on what you are using them for, on a high r.p.m. race engine, I would not trust them.
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Post  the Coug August 10th 2010, 11:29 pm

342g wrote:

you can't beat crane gold rockers, harlan sharp is junk.



yeah right I have been running them sence 1970 and never had any problems, and the ones I have are Garanteed for life..... any one else have that warranty? NO




a few year ago we broke one SBC 1.5 harland sharp and call and sent them in and they sent us a new set no charge would anyone else do that No Way



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Post  bb429power August 10th 2010, 11:34 pm

5750 rpm's MAX with 554 lift. Nothing to sweat about. I liked the fact that they are 100% American made, machined, and 100% American materials. Plus their warranty. Now a different business has bought them out, I don't know if they make them any different than they used to. Their supposed to be the first to make roller rockers.

To each their own, I'm still learning so I wouldn't know what's better (to an extent).
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Post  342g August 10th 2010, 11:41 pm

the Coug wrote:
342g wrote:

you can't beat crane gold rockers, harlan sharp is junk.



yeah right I have been running them sence 1970 and never had any problems, and the ones I have are Garanteed for life..... any one else have that warranty? NO




a few year ago we broke one SBC 1.5 harland sharp and call and sent them in and they sent us a new set no charge would anyone else do


that No Way






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how often do you race once every five years,...and I said high revving race engine.
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Post  bb429power August 10th 2010, 11:47 pm

I hope I didn't just open up a can of pissing.
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Post  342g August 10th 2010, 11:50 pm

you never, just funning.
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Post  the Coug August 10th 2010, 11:54 pm

when I raced my small blocks I raced every weekend the track was opened, like 20+ years of it and I guess 9000 to 10,000 RPm was not High enough for you huh?

I probably have more run down the 1/4 mile than you will rack up in 20+ years, I had a box with probably 2000+ slips in it till the wife discarded them... and Yes Harland Sharp was the builder of the first Roller rockers.....


The Reason I do not use Crane is the cost me a complete 302 Boss @ 9200 rpm it makes a mess and they told me if I started the engine the warranty was off Crane Cams Icon_eek Why have a warranty if you can't start the engine.....


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Post  bb429power August 10th 2010, 11:58 pm

the Coug wrote:they told me if I started the engine the warranty was off
Its a trap! affraid catch 22.
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Post  342g August 11th 2010, 12:03 am

the Coug wrote:when I raced my small blocks I raced every weekend the track was opened, like 20+ years of it and I guess 9000 to 10,000 RPm was not High enough for you huh?

I probably have more run down the 1/4 mile than you will rack up in 20+ years, I had a box with probably 2000+ slips in it till the wife discarded them... and Yes Harland Sharp was the builder of the first Roller rockers.....


The Reason I do not use Crane is the cost me a complete 302 Boss @ 9200 rpm it makes a mess and they told me if I started the engine the warranty was off Crane Cams Icon_eek Why have a warranty if you can't start the engine.....


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Post  rmcomprandy August 11th 2010, 12:05 am

Most people don't know that Harland Sharp has two different part number rocker arms with completely different geometry for use on the Big Block Ford or Cleveland Ford. They only advertise the one type.

Then there are the Chevrolet geometry rockers which are completely different than those.

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Post  bb429power August 11th 2010, 12:15 am

rmcomprandy wrote:Most people don't know that Harland Sharp has two different part number rocker arms with completely different geometry for use on the Big Block Ford or Cleveland Ford. They only advertise the one type.

Then there are the Chevrolet geometry rockers which are completely different than those.
This says its for both, how do I know I got the BBF one's? These are the one's I got.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CSP-S4005/
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Post  bbf-falcon August 11th 2010, 3:16 am

I've had luck w/Crane and Harland Sharpe rockers BUT,I don't race EVERY week ,Sometimes twice for Harold. Of the people on both Forums I would say that Harold and Gary Varney are at the track the most.

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Post  72mav August 11th 2010, 11:10 am

Enough shit.....
Thank you to Professor Randy again for the heads up on the two ratios Wink
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Post  rmcomprandy August 11th 2010, 11:38 am

Al Martin wrote: Enough shit.....
Thank you to Professor Randy again for the heads up on the two ratios Wink

NOT just ratios ... different geometries for the SAME ratio.


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Post  rmcomprandy August 11th 2010, 11:44 am

bb429power wrote:
rmcomprandy wrote:Most people don't know that Harland Sharp has two different part number rocker arms with completely different geometry for use on the Big Block Ford or Cleveland Ford. They only advertise the one type.

Then there are the Chevrolet geometry rockers which are completely different than those.
This says its for both, how do I know I got the BBF one's? These are the one's I got.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CSP-S4005/

S4005 is the standard one advertised for a Ford but, it may be to long when a long stem valve is used.
The Harland Sharp #S4073 is the shorter rocker which compares to the FRPP, Crane Gold or TFS rockers.

S2001 is the Chevrolet geometry rocker.


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Post  whitefield August 11th 2010, 12:01 pm

Harland sharp is what I run and have run for the last 15 years with no failers ! Crane and Comp both have had one failers each my junk. I also twist mine anywhere from 7500 to 8500 rpm. depends on if the rev limiter is working or not! All three that I have mentioned are good companys and are built buy humans so they are going to fail IMHO! Buy american! cheers Cool
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Post  bb429power August 11th 2010, 9:53 pm

Randy, I'm going to get adjustable push rods and set the geometry to match anyway. I should be set then right?
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