Cast iron RHS 460 head?

IDT-572 wrote:

DJOHAGIN wrote:

dfree383 wrote:over priced D3 replacement........

Are you mumbling?

I heard you couldn't even stand like a man, and here you are, still trying to low blow Scott.

I keep telling you to act like a man, and you're not getting it.

Dave

BTW, every head has an application. TFS, SCJ, and P-51 heads are not the answer to everything.

I guess if you can stick your nose in, I can too. Your out of line. You need to mind your own business . Dave and Scotties deal is between them. And I don't have a problem with either of them. You just stunk up a good thread. And I know I didn't help it any either.

SHIT starter! come over to my IDT post and join the pissen contest,you'll fit in.

DJOHAGIN wrote:

dfree383 wrote:over priced D3 replacement........

Are you mumbling?

I heard you couldn't even stand like a man, and here you are, still trying to low blow Scott.

I keep telling you to act like a man, and you're not getting it.

Dave

BTW, every head has an application. TFS, SCJ, and P-51 heads are not the answer to everything.

Wow.... The real expert has spoke

Let me repeat myself...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT..... Did you hear it now????? Let me Say it again just to make sure...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT...... That should clear up the idea that I was Mumbling.......

And mind your own business Jerk off.....

Heard ya loud and clear Freelander.....the first time.

So, let me get this straight, Mark posts this:

Mark Laczo wrote:Try this it may help.


http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/RHPD3Index.html

FWIW Mark

383 posts this:

dfree383 wrote:

Mark Laczo wrote:Try this it may help.


http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/RHPD3Index.html

FWIW Mark

over priced D3 replacement........

So, it is alright that Scott sells a produdt, and 383 can tell everyone that it overpriced and to go with TFS or SCJ. That is not an opinion. If someone else said that, maybe yes, but not 383. If you guys want to believe that 383 was merely stating is opinion, by all means do so. Every head has an application, and it is a far stretch to say what Scott sells is overpriced.

In my opinion,

Dave

DJOHAGIN wrote:So, let me get this straight, Mark posts this:

Mark Laczo wrote:Try this it may help.


http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/RHPD3Index.html

FWIW Mark

383 posts this:

dfree383 wrote:

Mark Laczo wrote:Try this it may help.


http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/RHPD3Index.html

FWIW Mark

over priced D3 replacement........

So, it is alright that Scott sells a produdt, and 383 can tell everyone that it overpriced and to go with TFS or SCJ. That is not an opinion. If someone else said that, maybe yes, but not 383. If you guys want to believe that 383 was merely stating is opinion, by all means do so. Every head has an application, and it is a far stretch to say what Scott sells is overpriced.

In my opinion,

Dave

Your not even worth a good argument.......

Argument? Again, 383, you miss the point.

If you and me and a bunch of men where sitting down at a table and having a discussion about what was first brought up in this thread, and you said, "...over priced D3 replacement........", that is mumbling. You didn't make a complete sentence, and there would be no merit in what you said. I would call you on the table, knowing that you and Scott had previous problems, and tell you, "Are you mumbling? I heard you couldn't even stand like a man, and here you are, still trying to low blow Scott. And if you retorted, at that table with, "Let me repeat myself...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT..... Did you hear it now????? Let me Say it again just to make sure...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT...... That should clear up the idea that I was Mumbling.......And mind your own business Jerk off.....", every man on that table would be looking at you weird, and at that point, I would be crossing over the table to show you what a real jerk off I am.

You have no concept on what it means to interact with men.

"Let me repeat myself...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT..... Did you hear it now????? Let me Say it again just to make sure...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT...... That should clear up the idea that I was Mumbling", my 10 year-old couldn't/wouldn't even say that.

I type exactly the way I would speak to you, face to face. You do not.

I'm not arguing or the one who started the $hit, but simply for you to act like a man.

Dave

DJOHAGIN wrote:Argument? Again, 383, you miss the point.

If you and me and a bunch of men where sitting down at a table and having a discussion about what was first brought up in this thread, and you said, "...over priced D3 replacement........", that is mumbling. You didn't make a complete sentence, and there would be no merit in what you said. I would call you on the table, knowing that you and Scott had previous problems, and tell you, "Are you mumbling? I heard you couldn't even stand like a man, and here you are, still trying to low blow Scott. And if you retorted, at that table with, "Let me repeat myself...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT..... Did you hear it now????? Let me Say it again just to make sure...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT...... That should clear up the idea that I was Mumbling.......And mind your own business Jerk off.....", every man on that table would be looking at you weird, and at that point, I would be crossing over the table to show you what a real jerk off I am.

You have no concept on what it means to interact with men.

"Let me repeat myself...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT..... Did you hear it now????? Let me Say it again just to make sure...... OVER PRICED D3 REPLACEMENT...... That should clear up the idea that I was Mumbling", my 10 year-old couldn't/wouldn't even say that.

I type exactly the way I would speak to you, face to face. You do not.

I'm not arguing or the one who started the $hit, but simply for you to act like a man.

Dave

Right.......

cheatham wrote:What does this Djohagin prick really contribute ? Anytime someone asks something he always need more information then anyone could imagine ! Hell, does he even have a big block ? One thing for sure he has a hard on for Dave.

For as long as you have been on this site and the old site you really don't know who or what Djohagin has contibuted. Here is a link to read up on some of the data that goes back to the network 54 days from prior to 2006. It is opinionated but it shows alot of initative and it is giving out info which is helpful to everyone. Whether or not he likes or dislikes Dave 383 has nothing to do with information sharing, they both are big boys and can defend themselves. I am pointing out what you questioned. How do you help someone if they do not give all the info, every bit not some vague desciption.

http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119213

One thing that has not been pointed out here is this, which I think pertains to the discussion:

How many of the non professional engine builders/assemblers on this site have started with bare iron heads and paid to have them fully reworked from start to finish in stock form ?
Then paid to do the same thing in fully race prepped form with larger valves and full porting with new seats a full meal deal ?

You will be surprised by how much it costs. I don't know how cheap you can get it done in the states but up here in Canada a basic iron head rebuild in stock form is going to be way over $1000. This is if you have good cores to start with, zero porting, and no measuring installed spring heights just slapping them together. Machine shops are way too busy doing oilfield related stuff.

As far as your name calling is it really helpful ? I don't understand that at all, the discussion was on iron replacement head options.

Do you have a big block/any block ? I have nothing against you, just don't understand your comments. Its about iron heads.

FWIW Mark

Shane has got and has had a few big blocks to be exact...........

did I hear Pro Comp mentioned?????

Mark I'd say your pretty well right. I brought up the procomp head because of the cost involved in redoing iron, its not cheap here either, and for a bsic d3 replacement they arent bad. As far as Dave and Djohagin thats why I deleted what I said. As far as 429/460's I've had 10 and still have three, they arent 800hp monsters but they do pretty good for what they are.

Mark,

I keep that thread updated here:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/267359/thread/1253311261/last-1253325348/HP+Chart

A few years ago I was involved in a bad auto accident, I was off for 5 weeks, and during that time, I researched the forum, and other articles, to find what combos produced what hp. I tried to be as subjective as possible. The foreword in the above link, which is missing from the link you posted, states,

"In regards to this chart, for every listed horsepower level, there is at least 10 different combos to get that same power. The builds outlined will get you the horsepower listed, but they are not the only way. Every individual's combo requires its own unique build.

In conclusion, this chart cannot be everything to everyone. Think of this chart as just as a guide-line to get you started in the right direction."

I remember always finding charts for other engines, but nothing for our 460s. I have changed the chart over the years, as new components become available, and you can just buy it done rather than custom work having to be done.

Cheatham,

I do ask a lot of questions. How else to help someone? Everything (Engine, trans, rear end, tire height) all interact. If you have owned 10 different engines, you understand how each one can perform radically different from each other with different components. A 600 hp engine, in one vehicle, can out perform a 800 hp in another vehicle if the rest of 800 hp vehicle is not "in sync" with what the engine wants. There is so much more than just a peak hp number.

As far as 383 goes, do I have a hard on for him? NO. I would defend Randy, Charlie, Lem, Paul, Dave McLain or anyone else I come to know on the forum, if someone was trying to smear their name. Even though I have not met some of these individuals in person, in my opinion, they are men. They have given their time, knowledge, and sweat to help inform and educate individuals. Scott Johnson has given a lot. I find it funny when I go on other forums, and individuals are talking about having to add aluminum exhaust port plates or tongues to help the ford exhaust port. Even though the info was known by a select few before Scott, it was Scott who put the info on how to make the cast iron head exhaust ports work, on the internet, for the masses to see, and to show that those mods are not needed. I come before the time it was easy to make power with a 460. It is a bolt-on affair now. I can tell you I have gained much more than what I have given. I contribute when I can. I'm I a prick? OK. I'm I an a$$hole, sure. But my name and word mean something to me, and I say things as I see them. It bugs the $hit out of me when I see individuals not acting like men.

Hope that clarifies,

Dave

Not to change the subject but how good or bad is the exhaust port on the fuelie heads, from a max performance stand point?-A

It is a good port, albeit small. You'll spend a lot of money getting the fuelie heads "tuned up". They can make 600+ hp. You'll need custom headers.

BTW, I like the 2-tone paint job on your truck in your sig. One of my trucks had that same paint scheme originally. It is not common.

Hope that helps,

Dave

4speed wrote:Not to change the subject but how good or bad is the exhaust port on the fuelie heads, from a max performance stand point?-A

Clean up the exhaust and spend your time on the intake. If you cant get it in, you don't have to worry about getting it out. It has a nice exhaust port compared to a regular BBF stock head.

Thanks guys for the info on the cast iron heads. I know that there are alot of aluminum heads out there that you can run out of the box and get good power from & some good iron too, like the ex514's & dooe-r's but sometimes I like to take things that are'nt usually practical to most and make something good happen with it just for the challenge & the right application. I'am glad that there are still some very good minds out there still willing to spend time on these iron heads because some of us still need to run them for class rules. Heck just about anybody can make power with todays good heads but to take some that are 40 yrs old or some that were not exactly intended to make big power & make em shine- now that says something for the person behind the maddness!

Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

thats one of my main points.....

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

No coverversation with myself . now if you have one with yourself , you might understand it .

BOSS 429 wrote:
ITS A REPLACEMENT EFI HEAD, no need to worry, large open chamber,small ports, just like all the efi 460 heads

It is not an open chamber head, it is a D-shaped, closed chamber head. E8TE-style 460 FI head.

4speed wrote:Here is the link, they say they have more than 40 of them.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/460-FORD-CYLINDER-HEAD-NEW-SEE-DESCRIPTION-INFO-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem335f8e597eQQitemZ220646496638QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

This above auction states, "THIS IS ALSO THE HEAD USED ON THE 4CYL. MERC-CRUISER UP TO THE LATE 80'S."

That statement is incorrect. The Mercruiser engines used a D3VE-style head, not an E8TE-style head.