598" ;) A head - Dyno results page 6

How'd they flow?
I'm pondering more wrk to my 2.35 Aheads

dirt_worker wrote:How'd they flow?
I'm pondering more wrk to my 2.35 Aheads

I'm not sure if going to a 2.38 from a 2.35 would help much. Mine were 2.30. I'm sure the experts on here can lead you in the right direction. I don't have the flow sheets in front of me right now but the best runners were in the 460 to 465 range @ .850.

soupbean wrote:Finally, tomorrow is dyno day. Wish me luck! I'll post results when I get back

" GOOD LUCK " ,Hope everything goes well today "soupbean"!. Will be waiting to hear results,and im bettin on some very good ones too. "MavMan"

Started not feeling very well earlier when I started the story today. Feeling better but still going to wait till tomorrow to post the story but for now... Click the picks to hear her purrrrr









Thats no vaccum pump, dynoed with 2 1/2" headers, C25 fuel instead of Q16, timing at 30 degrees, 1st full pull off the bed of my truck.

soupbean wrote:Started not feeling very well earlier when I started the story today. Feeling better but still going to wait till tomorrow to post the story but for now.

841.4 torq.and 1031.5hp!, That was worth the wait. Thank You,MavMan

First and foremost, I want to say thank you to Lem Evans, Phillip Oakley, William Blackey, and Charlie Peppers, on the help and hard work that went into this project as well as Kelly Ricketts and Chuck Lawrence for the help on the dyno. I know alot of you guys do this all the time and it's no big deal to you but I have a true respect (and appreciation) for the knowledge you guys have with BBF engines. I have only been "serious" in the BBF game for a year and a half and now. I have gained so much knowledge (yet so much to still learn) from this forum and the people in it. I thank all of you that contribute for eager learners of the BBF like myself to keep the Ford Power dream alive. Now I have a story to contribute myself. Here is the build...

A460 block
4.500 Scat crank
6.7 Scat rods ARP 2000
4.600 Diamond dome pistons (Yes, ended up going 598")
Lem spec Comp Cam
TFS A460 10 bolt heads massaged by Phillip Oakley. 2.380 intake
Crower SS rockers and Jomar girdles
Manley springs, valves, and pushrods.
TFS R series intake massaged by Phillip Oakley.
Oakley Q16 spec 1450 QF carb
Jomar 1" power cone
Danny Bee belt drive
Innovators West Damper
MSD distributor
Moroso race wires
Keith Fulp engine plate & timing tab
CSR water pump
Etc. Etc.

There was suppose to be Q16 fuel at the dyno to purchase for our session but once we got the engine bolted to the dyno, it was discovered they were fresh out. We had a choice to drive 2 hours to get some or run C25. C25 it was. Also, the smallest headers that were available that were bunged were 2 1/2". And I did not "borrow" a vaccum pump to play with either. Once we fired the engine, we had a BAD miss. To make a long story short, we eventually found that the valve lash on #1 was mistakenly way out of adjustment. Went ahead and adjusted all the valves again and we were good to go. Only problem is we had limited time on the dyno and just waisted a lot of it. Once broke in, we were ready to make the first pull. Keep in mind my goal was 1000+ hp. 1st pull was a short pull to make sure the out of the box a/f on the Oakley QF 1450 was good. Timing set at 30*, cam straight up. I was watching nothing but the numbers as it was pulled to 6300. I watched it climb into the 9's. It kept climbing and kept climbing and just as he shut it down, I saw 4 digits pop up. What a good feeling. 1004hp @6300. A/F on the 1450 was damn near perfect right out of the box. Next, we made a full pull with everything still as it was. Hit 1031hp at 7000. With a big grin on my face, I was ready to unbolt it and go to the bar. But as we were running out of time we made 2 more pulls. First we added some more timing, then we advanced the cam 2*. Neither help hp but brought the torque up a little bit more.

Needless to say, to have hopes of 1000hp, pull it off the bed of my truck and make 1031 I was happier than a puppy with 2 peters! I wish we had more time and parts to tune as I think we still have quite a bit left in this thing but I think we have plenty to cause more concern for getting it down the track as is than trying to squeeze more out of it. The next dyno session will be a data logger, an e.t., and my ass puckered to the seat .

For any of you that have never done business with them, Lem Evans, Phillip Oakley, and Keith Fulp are all EXTREMELY knowledgable BBF guys that stand behind their products and work. But most importantly, are customer oriented. Highly recommended. Thanks Guys!!!

thats what im talking about !!!!!! very impressive indeed , congrats to all involved

Congratulations to all involved.

You know you left some on the table with the items you mentioned; no vacuum pump, wrong headers, and the C-25 in a carb that Oakley had speced for Q-16. Could you have payed a little more and left the engine on the dyno for another day? It might have been worth it. Anyway, again good job

Charlie

deal. It was a pleasure working with you on the project. With the Q16 I suspect you've got a 1,050 HP deal on your hands. Also, a 20W-50 or 15W-50 syn. racing oil is usually good for 8-9 hp over the diesel oil you used for break in.
Congrats.....

Nice results!
I never had any doubts that it would blow past the 1000 HP goal.
Now you get to find any weak points in the rest of the car.
:-)
It was great meeting you...
Keith

good job! I need to get me one of them 1450's.........

your gona like the ride!

Congrats on your goal! Glad to hear things worked out. Also I Appreciate the compliments and thanks for the opportunity to work with you on this project.

whats it cost to build something like this? if you dontmind me asking?

Gazillions?

is that more than Bazillions?

Oakley Motorsports wrote:Congrats on your goal! Glad to hear things worked out. Also I Appreciate the compliments and thanks for the opportunity to work with you on this project.

Carb was mean out of the box WITH the wrong fuel. Can't wait to see what it does with Q16. BTW, you got some props for that intake work by what the man seen on the dyno. I'm not sure what he was looking at on the monitors, but he liked the intake

2POWERADDERS wrote:whats it cost to build something like this? if you dontmind me asking?

Well, I am married and have learned, happy wife = happy life. Destroy receipts and be happy

soupbean wrote:

2POWERADDERS wrote:whats it cost to build something like this? if you dontmind me asking?

Well, I am married and have learned, happy wife = happy life. Destroy receipts and be happy

You got that shit right Shannon!! LOL


Congrats on the new powerplant. Should be a beast when you get it to the track,......so hold on.


FWIW,......
What kind of compression do this engine have?

Copperhead wrote:

soupbean wrote:

2POWERADDERS wrote:whats it cost to build something like this? if you dontmind me asking?

Well, I am married and have learned, happy wife = happy life. Destroy receipts and be happy

You got that shit right Shannon!! LOL


Congrats on the new powerplant. Should be a beast when you get it to the track,......so hold on.


FWIW,......
What kind of compression do this engine have?

Thanks man, I'm excited. I think it came in around 14.5:1

Congrats on your beast of a engine! Nice job!

Very nice build, sir! Been looking into something similar for my Fox. Have you ever thought of running E85? That's the only hitch I am stuck on at the moment...

popskull wrote:Very nice build, sir! Been looking into something similar for my Fox. Have you ever thought of running E85? That's the only hitch I am stuck on at the moment...

No sir. Q16 will be the engines diet.

damn that stuff stinks.......

richter69 wrote:damn that stuff stinks.......

Not here to be popular in the lanes