Cast iron RHS 460 head?

Mark I'd say your pretty well right. I brought up the procomp head because of the cost involved in redoing iron, its not cheap here either, and for a bsic d3 replacement they arent bad. As far as Dave and Djohagin thats why I deleted what I said. As far as 429/460's I've had 10 and still have three, they arent 800hp monsters but they do pretty good for what they are.

Mark,

I keep that thread updated here:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/267359/thread/1253311261/last-1253325348/HP+Chart

A few years ago I was involved in a bad auto accident, I was off for 5 weeks, and during that time, I researched the forum, and other articles, to find what combos produced what hp. I tried to be as subjective as possible. The foreword in the above link, which is missing from the link you posted, states,

"In regards to this chart, for every listed horsepower level, there is at least 10 different combos to get that same power. The builds outlined will get you the horsepower listed, but they are not the only way. Every individual's combo requires its own unique build.

In conclusion, this chart cannot be everything to everyone. Think of this chart as just as a guide-line to get you started in the right direction."

I remember always finding charts for other engines, but nothing for our 460s. I have changed the chart over the years, as new components become available, and you can just buy it done rather than custom work having to be done.

Cheatham,

I do ask a lot of questions. How else to help someone? Everything (Engine, trans, rear end, tire height) all interact. If you have owned 10 different engines, you understand how each one can perform radically different from each other with different components. A 600 hp engine, in one vehicle, can out perform a 800 hp in another vehicle if the rest of 800 hp vehicle is not "in sync" with what the engine wants. There is so much more than just a peak hp number.

As far as 383 goes, do I have a hard on for him? NO. I would defend Randy, Charlie, Lem, Paul, Dave McLain or anyone else I come to know on the forum, if someone was trying to smear their name. Even though I have not met some of these individuals in person, in my opinion, they are men. They have given their time, knowledge, and sweat to help inform and educate individuals. Scott Johnson has given a lot. I find it funny when I go on other forums, and individuals are talking about having to add aluminum exhaust port plates or tongues to help the ford exhaust port. Even though the info was known by a select few before Scott, it was Scott who put the info on how to make the cast iron head exhaust ports work, on the internet, for the masses to see, and to show that those mods are not needed. I come before the time it was easy to make power with a 460. It is a bolt-on affair now. I can tell you I have gained much more than what I have given. I contribute when I can. I'm I a prick? OK. I'm I an a$$hole, sure. But my name and word mean something to me, and I say things as I see them. It bugs the $hit out of me when I see individuals not acting like men.

Hope that clarifies,

Dave

Not to change the subject but how good or bad is the exhaust port on the fuelie heads, from a max performance stand point?-A

It is a good port, albeit small. You'll spend a lot of money getting the fuelie heads "tuned up". They can make 600+ hp. You'll need custom headers.

BTW, I like the 2-tone paint job on your truck in your sig. One of my trucks had that same paint scheme originally. It is not common.

Hope that helps,

Dave

4speed wrote:Not to change the subject but how good or bad is the exhaust port on the fuelie heads, from a max performance stand point?-A

Clean up the exhaust and spend your time on the intake. If you cant get it in, you don't have to worry about getting it out. It has a nice exhaust port compared to a regular BBF stock head.

Thanks guys for the info on the cast iron heads. I know that there are alot of aluminum heads out there that you can run out of the box and get good power from & some good iron too, like the ex514's & dooe-r's but sometimes I like to take things that are'nt usually practical to most and make something good happen with it just for the challenge & the right application. I'am glad that there are still some very good minds out there still willing to spend time on these iron heads because some of us still need to run them for class rules. Heck just about anybody can make power with todays good heads but to take some that are 40 yrs old or some that were not exactly intended to make big power & make em shine- now that says something for the person behind the maddness!

Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

thats one of my main points.....

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

No coverversation with myself . now if you have one with yourself , you might understand it .

BOSS 429 wrote:
ITS A REPLACEMENT EFI HEAD, no need to worry, large open chamber,small ports, just like all the efi 460 heads

It is not an open chamber head, it is a D-shaped, closed chamber head. E8TE-style 460 FI head.

4speed wrote:Here is the link, they say they have more than 40 of them.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/460-FORD-CYLINDER-HEAD-NEW-SEE-DESCRIPTION-INFO-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem335f8e597eQQitemZ220646496638QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

This above auction states, "THIS IS ALSO THE HEAD USED ON THE 4CYL. MERC-CRUISER UP TO THE LATE 80'S."

That statement is incorrect. The Mercruiser engines used a D3VE-style head, not an E8TE-style head.

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

If you want to save 70 (not 80) pounds, then the chinese Procomp head is a lighter head. Can the factory iron head support enough power to beat the Procomp in horepower capability and for total dollars spent....and can it beat it down the track even with the 70-pound weight disadvantage? I most certainly think so on all points noted.

In the end, it ultimately depends what you exactly need.

Paul

DanH wrote:

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

No coverversation with myself . now if you have one with yourself , you might understand it .

LOL! Fair enough, Captain Grumpypants.

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

No coverversation with myself . now if you have one with yourself , you might understand it .

LOL! Fair enough, Captain Grumpypants.

You got to learn to speak New York....

Paul Kane wrote:

BOSS 429 wrote:
ITS A REPLACEMENT EFI HEAD, no need to worry, large open chamber,small ports, just like all the efi 460 heads

It is not an open chamber head, it is a D-shaped, closed chamber head. E8TE-style 460 FI head.

Paul, The way I understood it is the E8 was still a non-EFI head, similar (or the same) as an E6TE, where as the E7,F3 were the EFI heads.

Or am I all confused........as i've never seen an E8 head.

Damn....all ya'll ever do is argue on here....would rather build shit all on my own.....oh yeah I already do......by the way....how can I change my screen name to "Devildick"?.....Just re-register or what?.....D

devildog wrote:Damn....all ya'll ever do is argue on here....would rather build shit all on my own.....oh yeah I already do......by the way....how can I change my screen name to "Devildick"?.....Just re-register or what?.....D

thats what the internet is good for........

richter69 wrote:

devildog wrote:Damn....all ya'll ever do is argue on here....would rather build shit all on my own.....oh yeah I already do......by the way....how can I change my screen name to "Devildick"?.....Just re-register or what?.....D

thats what the internet is good for........

Sure is especially talking about the HeRo's garbage he thinks is so bada$$....LOL, Overly priced ProComp wanna be me thinks.

Oh hell I did it now.

The E7TE and F3TE castings are EFI heads.

The E6TE and E8TE are D3 style later model truck castings. The E8 was for the motorhomes which held on to their carbs for several years after the lighter duty vehicles went to efi.

dfree383 wrote:

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

plovett wrote:

DanH wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

frank13 wrote:

plovett wrote:Why buy a Chinese head for your 460 when you can do as well with a rubbed on factory head?

JMO,

paulie

cause they are like 80 pounds lighter

And look a whole lot prettier too ... when that is one of your major priorities.

This is just to show what happens when the quote is hit .. Randy post I hit the quote , but will bring the quote he hit . Thats how the fight began , how it ends ???? but this is way it started

I think you're having a conversation with someone in your own head. And I just quoted you.

paulie

No coverversation with myself . now if you have one with yourself , you might understand it .

LOL! Fair enough, Captain Grumpypants.

You got to learn to speak New York....

Yeah , that's why I don't go very far east.

I love to go west, until I hit California.

The 90% in between the two is awesome.

paulie