Re: need help building motor

schmitty January 4th 2015, 11:23 am

The pump gas deal will definitely make this a lot harder. 800 is doable, but the tune is going to be critical. What about going with a turbo engine?

windsor January 4th 2015, 11:29 am

http://www.460ford.com/forum/showpost.php?p=635044&postcount=27

J.Toney January 4th 2015, 11:40 am

schmitty wrote:The pump gas deal will definitely make this a lot harder. 800 is doable, but the tune is going to be critical. What about going with a turbo engine?

X2 on a hard loaded, heat making mudbogger. From what I imagine, WOT, for 30-60 seconds or more with alot of load. Along the same lines as a boat. That'll wanna make heat, and detonate if the wrong fuel. I might think different in a street/drag app with less wieght and more speed. Personally, I dig E85.

Lem Evans January 4th 2015, 4:33 pm

fordhighboy wrote:
schmitty wrote:
What do you have for parts now? Are there any rules you need to follow? A good DOVE head 557 would get you where you are headed, but a decent set of TFS Streets or SCJ's would make it easier. There is no replacement for displacement, and price is comparable for cranks, so get the big stroke. If it's in your budget, Callie's has a 4.75" forged crank available. Good luck and keep an open mind to suggestions offered here, lots of good guys who have done this a lot.

nope no rules that i need to follow this is just a big monster mud bogging truck. will be ran on pump gas. im wanting to be around atleast 800ish havnt ordered any parts been asking for opinions on what company to order stroker kit from and what kind of head/cam and everything would be good choice to get what i want. ive got 5k in bank right now and will have lot more when get tax check so trying to compile a parts list and start ordering. ive read up and am going to go with 557 stroker kit just dont know what company as ive heard both bad and good from companys like scat/eagle etc and was told to go with p51 heads?

The forged Lunati & Scat crankshafts are the ones I prefer.

Lem Evans January 4th 2015, 4:37 pm

J.Toney wrote:
schmitty wrote:The pump gas deal will definitely make this a lot harder. 800 is doable, but the tune is going to be critical. What about going with a turbo engine?
X2 on a hard loaded, heat making mudbogger. From what I imagine, WOT, for 30-60 seconds or more with alot of load. Along the same lines as a boat. That'll wanna make heat, and detonate if the wrong fuel. I might think different in a street/drag app with less wieght and more speed. Personally, I dig E85.

Yep, if he's where E85 is available a 13.5/1 545"-557" deal will make some shit happen Smile

fordhighboy January 5th 2015, 9:42 am

Lem Evans wrote:
J.Toney wrote:
schmitty wrote:The pump gas deal will definitely make this a lot harder. 800 is doable, but the tune is going to be critical. What about going with a turbo engine?
X2 on a hard loaded, heat making mudbogger. From what I imagine, WOT, for 30-60 seconds or more with alot of load. Along the same lines as a boat. That'll wanna make heat, and detonate if the wrong fuel. I might think different in a street/drag app with less wieght and more speed. Personally, I dig E85.

Yep, if he's where E85 is available a 13.5/1 545"-557" deal will make some shit happen

i can run 110 octane just rather not pay $7 gallon lol. and yes we have E85 here in indiana

J.Toney January 5th 2015, 10:20 am

Know anyone local with experience with it? Go get some insight on E85 and see what they think, or read up a bit on it. There are lots of facts and rumors from what I've experienced. As far as subsidy $ and price at the pump in the future, who knows?

Lem Evans January 5th 2015, 11:28 am

http://www.e85prices.com/Indiana.html

J.Toney January 5th 2015, 12:13 pm

Thats funny, it was $.89 a 2 weeks ago here in W.Michigan. Still, if its available and resonable for cost, doesn't hurt to learn about it.

Lem Evans January 5th 2015, 12:35 pm

J.Toney wrote:Thats funny, it was $.89 a 2 weeks ago here in W.Michigan. Still, if its available and resonable for cost, doesn't hurt to learn about it.

It's a little cheaper in kentucky than In. ....always has been about the price of preminium unleaded here.

Curt January 5th 2015, 4:28 pm

Our regular unleaded is cheaper than that @ $1.74/gal. Shocked

rmcomprandy January 5th 2015, 6:46 pm

fordhighboy wrote:
schmitty wrote:
What do you have for parts now? Are there any rules you need to follow? A good DOVE head 557 would get you where you are headed, but a decent set of TFS Streets or SCJ's would make it easier. There is no replacement for displacement, and price is comparable for cranks, so get the big stroke. If it's in your budget, Callie's has a 4.75" forged crank available. Good luck and keep an open mind to suggestions offered here, lots of good guys who have done this a lot.

nope no rules that i need to follow this is just a big monster mud bogging truck. will be ran on pump gas. im wanting to be around atleast 800ish havnt ordered any parts been asking for opinions on what company to order stroker kit from and what kind of head/cam and everything would be good choice to get what i want. ive got 5k in bank right now and will have lot more when get tax check so trying to compile a parts list and start ordering. ive read up and am going to go with 557 stroker kit just dont know what company as ive heard both bad and good from companys like scat/eagle etc and was told to go with p51 heads?

It this is simply a mud "BOG" type truck then do whatever you can to get it on a diet and make it as light as you can.

Wheels, Brakes, chassis, body, bed ... everywhere you can get weight out of it.

Lem Evans January 5th 2015, 8:27 pm

Curt wrote:Our regular unleaded is cheaper than that @ $1.74/gal.

Will the Texas reg. unleaded support 13/1 ? Very Happy

J.Toney January 5th 2015, 10:52 pm

Curt wrote:Our regular unleaded is cheaper than that @ $1.74/gal.

Cheaper than .89? Odd math.

Lem Evans January 5th 2015, 11:43 pm

fordhighboy wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:
J.Toney wrote:
schmitty wrote:The pump gas deal will definitely make this a lot harder. 800 is doable, but the tune is going to be critical. What about going with a turbo engine?
X2 on a hard loaded, heat making mudbogger. From what I imagine, WOT, for 30-60 seconds or more with alot of load. Along the same lines as a boat. That'll wanna make heat, and detonate if the wrong fuel. I might think different in a street/drag app with less wieght and more speed. Personally, I dig E85.

Yep, if he's where E85 is available a 13.5/1 545"-557" deal will make some shit happen

i can run 110 octane just rather not pay $7 gallon lol. and yes we have E85 here in indiana

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Well..huh...you said it was a pump gas deal....so why do you think any of us want you to run $7.00 per gallon fuel?

IDT-572 January 8th 2015, 10:19 am

Flat top 557, P-51's E85, and go on a diet................ Twisted Evil

That will be all over 900 hp! ! ! ! ! !

Curt January 8th 2015, 12:37 pm

J.Toney wrote:
Curt wrote:Our regular unleaded is cheaper than that @ $1.74/gal.
Cheaper than .89? Odd math.

No, he posted a link for E85 prices that were higher than our unleaded prices.

No Lem, but lesser quality fuel should be lesser. Wink

That argument would make Methanol $12/gal.

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